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>>>> Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>> Top Microsoft lawyer alleges in a magazine interview that the Linux
>>>> kernel
>>>> and OpenOffice.org violate hundreds of the company's patents.
>>>> By Ina Friedand Stephen Shankland
>>>> Staff Writer, CNET News.com
>>>> Published: May 13, 2007, 7:35 PM PDT
>>>> Last modified: May 13, 2007, 8:30 PM PDT
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>>>> Re****t: Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents
>>>> update Microsoft claims that free and open-source software violates
235
>>>> of
>>>> its patents, according to a magazine re****t published Sunday.
>>>> In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith alleges
>>>> that
>>>> the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user
>>>> interface
>>>> and other design elements infringe on a further 65. OpenOffice.org is
>>>> accused of infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and
>>>> open-source
>>>> programs, according to Fortune.
>>>> It is not entirely clear how Microsoft might proceed in enforcing
these
>>>> patents, but the company has been encouraging large tech companies
that
>>>> depend on Linux to ink patent deals, starting with its controversial
>>>> pact
>>>> with Novell last November. Microsoft has also cited Linux protection
>>>> playing a role in recent patent swap deals with Samsung and Fuji
Xerox.
>>>> Microsoft has also had discussions but not reached a deal with Red
Hat,
>>>> as
>>>> noted in the Fortune article.
>>>> Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is also quoted in the article as saying
>>>> Microsoft's open-source competitors need to "play by the same rules
as
>>>> the
>>>> rest of the business."
>>>> "What's fair is fair," Ballmer told Fortune. "We live in a world
where
>>>> we
>>>> honor, and sup****t the honoring of, intellectual property."
>>>> The story notes that some big tech proponents of open source have
been
>>>> stockpiling intellectual property as part of the Open Invention
>>>> Network,
>>>> set up in 2005 by folks like Sony, Red Hat, IBM, NEC and Philips. The
>>>> article surmises that if Microsoft were to go after open source,
these
>>>> companies' combined know-how might give it some patent weapons to go
>>>> after
>>>> Windows.
>>>> A Microsoft representative did not immediately respond to an e-mail
>>>> seeking comment.
>>>> Given how deeply entrenched open-source software has become in the
>>>> computing industry, taking direct legal action against the
open-source
>>>> realm would be a complicated, hackle-raising undertaking for
Microsoft.
>>>> Customers use open-source software widely, and many major computing
>>>> companies--IBM, Dell, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard, Motorola and
>>>> Oracle, for example--sup****t Linux work directly.
>>>> It's not the first time that open-source patent concerns have arisen.
A
>>>> 2004 study by a Open Source Risk Management, a company selling
>>>> insurance
>>>> against risks of using open-source software, concluded that Linux
could
>>>> violate at least 283 patents, 27 of them Microsoft patents.
>>>> Patents and the open-source movement get along awkwardly at best.
>>>> Patent
>>>> law gives proprietary, exclusive rights to patent holders, but
>>>> open-source
>>>> programming is built on the idea of free sharing. Newer open-source
>>>> licenses sometimes address the issue by requiring contributors to
>>>> open-source projects to grant users and developers of the software a
>>>> perpetual, royalty-free license to any patents that relate to the
>>>> contribution.
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>>>> Different companies have dealt in different ways with the open-source
>>>> patent conundrum. For example, HP has taken a pro-patent stance,
while
>>>> IBM, Nokia, Sun and others have granted some rights to use some of
>>>> their
>>>> patents in open-source software.
>>>> The Open Invention Network remains a relatively young effort, but it
>>>> has
>>>> attracted participation this year from proprietary software giant
>>>> Oracle
>>>> and from Linux sup****t seller Canonical. A company may license the
>>>> network's patents for free as long as they promise not to assert any
>>>> patent claims against those involved in the "Linux environment."
>>>> The Free Software Foundation is working on a new draft of the General
>>>> Public License, one element of which will ban partner****ps such as
the
>>>> one
>>>> struck by Novell and Microsoft.
>>> The Linux geeks love to bash MSFT. Yet they love to copy the features
>>> and
>>> funtionality of MSFT products. They only wish they had a product half
as
>>> powerful and feature rich as MSFT has. The Linux geeks are nothing
but a
>>> bunch of thieves intent on destroying the rights of intellectual
property
>>> owners.
>> Um.... do you know where MS got its original OS's from?
>>
>> Do you know where Internet Explorer came from?
>>
>> Do you know why MS Word, STILL a functionally inferior product to
>> Wordperfect, is the most popular word processor in the world?
>>
>> MS hasn't had an original idea during their entire existence, and
>> their marketing strategy revolves around predatory capitalism.
>>
>> OpenOffice has been around since 2000, and they're just NOW claiming
>> that they're "stealing" code for basic functionality?
>>
>> Good luck with that...
>>
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> You really shouldn't lecture me about MSFT. I spent the whole decade of
the
> 1990's working for MSFT in the sales & marketing division. I didn't
live
> Microsoft history, I made it. Get a reality check. Your facts are
laughable
> and dated.
>
>
>
Were you the pathetic little right wing thug you are now back then too?
Surely you must have been, I assume you were sucking all the right wing
cocks you could find then as well.
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