Re: =>Albert Hofmann, Inventor of LSD, Embarks on Final Trip <=

On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:53:14 -0600, "Reality_Check©" <Reality@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:


>"Sean Carroll" <seanc130@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:481c75ce$0$4045$bbae4d71@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>
>>> He re****ts in his 1979 autobiography LSD, My Problem Child, that he 
>>> became restless and dizzy when he accidentally ingested the compound 
>>> while making it-and "perceived an uninterrupted stream of fantastic 
>>> pictures, extraordinary shapes with intense, kaleidoscopic play of 
>>> colors" for about two hours.
>>
>> I don't think 'ingested' is the proper term. He absorbed it through his

>> fingertips, if I'm not mistaken.
>>
>>> The very next day (April 19, 1943), he swallowed 0.25 milligram of the

>>> acid to confirm that it had caused his odd symptoms.
>>
>> I thought it was more like 400 micrograms. Since no known compound at
the 
>> time was so powerfully active in such small doses, he planned to start
out 
>> small and gradually raise the dose, only to find that he had actually 
>> taken enough to launch him on a fully intense trip about as powerful as

>> almost any trip gets. Since 250 micrograms is a relatively moderate
dose,
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>
>Street level doses are estimated to be 100 mics .

by whom? If I have a bunch of sugar cubes with acid on them, I can say
something like "if I take one, I get a mild stimulation that lasts all
day, if I take three, I get a moderately strong trip, but can still go
out and interact with people, but if I take 8, I need to be indoors,
with someone to look out for me". None of this translates to "a cube
is x micrograms of LSD". The only way I can get to that is by reading
thirty year old accounts of people taking known doses and comparing
the effects.

If I have a bottle of LSD dissolved in liquid, how is a "dose" 100
mics? Is a dose a drop? then the dose doesn't just depend on the
strength of the acid, but on the size of the hole in the bottle....

>> it was my impression that it was closer to 400, which is about where
the 
>> law of dimini****ng returns kicks in and any additional increases in
dose 
>> only lengthen the trip without making it any more intense. But I could
be 
>> wrong.
>
>Experiment on yourself and re****t back to us.

???

Unless he has access to accurately measured doses, or the equipment to
measure the doses, I'm not sure how you think he can do that. 

I'd love to be accurate and say, "I took 500 micrograms of LSD, and
this is what happened" (something I could do with reasonable
confidence with nn-DMT, ketamine, MDMA etc.), but the fact is, unless
you have access to very specialized equipment, the best you can do
these days is to buy a reasonable quantity at a time, try it, and
decide on how much to take based on what effect the previous trips
from the same batch had.

pj