On Apr 1, 2:33 pm, tripurant...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 1, 8:57 am, pearl <lilw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 1, 12:55 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Apr 1, 5:50 am, pearl <lilw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Apr 1, 12:51 am, "benli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > "The Bible" is the canon of presently accepted texts. Other
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> > > > > texts may be considered sacred by various people, but that does
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> > > > > make them "another Bible". Even if Ouseley's vegetarian gospel
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> > > > > authentically ancient, it is still not "another Bible".
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> > > > It is. See definition 'd'..
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> > > How you figure? Ouseleys's text is not "the sacred text of a
> > > religion."
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> > Essenes, Essene Teachings and Essene Theology =B7 Christianity
> > Details Christian history according to an Essene/Nazarene view,
> > including use of a "Gospel of the Holy Twelve."www.thenazareneway.com/
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> Thank you Pearlji. In my view, it is astoni****ng that the so called
> normal bibles, such as King James etc, vary so much in their content
> and organization. They contain material that could be hardly
> considered sacred. I think the Essene content makes a lot of sense and
> whatever the "normal view" view is , it is a sacred text in content
> and is a bible, in my opinion. I think people have to study and
> compare the various versions and not merely assume it is afraud etc.
> If anything the others could be a fraud, in my view.
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> Thanks for your contributions and for showing me this text as well
Always a pleasure, Tripji. In complete agreement, thanks.
Some further background for context may be in order here..
Philo, (Jewish philosopher, 20 BC - 50 AD) -
'[Essenes: the name]
(11.1) But our lawgiver [Moses] trained an innumerable body
of his pupils to partake in those things, who are called Essenes,
being, as I imagine, honoured with this appellation because of
their exceeding holiness [Greek hosioteta =3D osiothta].
(EGM 75) There is a ****tion of those people called Essenes,
in number something more than four thousand in my opinion,
who derive their name from their piety [Greek hosiotetos =3D
osiothtoV], though not according to any accurate form of the
Grecian dialect, because they are above all men devoted to
the service [therapeutai] of God, not sacrificing living animals,
but studying rather to preserve their own minds in a state of
holiness and purity.
=2E.
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rs/rak/courses/999/hypothet.htm
The northern branch of the Essenes were named Nazarenes*..
"The Nasaraeans - they were jews by nationality - originally
from Gileaditis (where the early followers of Yeshu-Maria
fled after the martyrdom of James the Lord's brother),
Bashanitis and the Transjordon . . . They acknowledged
Moses and believed that he had received laws - not this law,
however, but some other. And so, they were jews who kept
all the Jewish observances, but they would not offer sacrifice
or eat meat. They considered it unlawful to eat meat or make
sacrifices with it. They claim that these Books are fictions,
and that none of these customs were instituted by the fathers.
This was the difference between the Nasaraeans and the
others. . . (Epiphanius, Panarion 1:18)
(Epiphanius - early christian scholar, ca 310-20 - 403 AD),
=2E.
Nasaraeans, meaning, "rebels," who forbid all flesh-eating,
and do not eat living things at all. They have the holy names
of patriarchs which are in the Pentateuch, up through Moses
and Joshua the son of Nun, and they believe in them-(2) I
mean Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the earliest ones, and
Moses himself, and Aaron, and Joshua. But they hold that
the scriptures of the Pentateuch were not written by Moses,
and maintain that they have others. (Epiphanius, Panarion
1:19)
=2E.'
http://essenes.net/sz17.htm
John 19
8 Pilate also had an inscription written and put on the cross.
It read, "Jesus the Nazorean, the King of the Jews."
http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/john/john19.htm
- United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
*'Versions of the word "Nazarene"
Matthew 2:23 uses the Greek word Nazoraios to refer to Jesus;
in English this has traditionally (e.g. in the King James Bible)
been translated as "Nazarene" (plural "Nazarenes"). However
Mark 1:24 refers to Jesus as Nazarenos; in English this has
traditionally (e.g. in the King James Bible) been translated as
"of Nazareth"; however, because the correct Greek form of
"of Nazareth" would be Nazarethenos or Nazarethaios, most
modern translators prefer "Nazarene" here as well. "Nazarene"
is also spelled in a variety of ways, including "Nazarean",
"Nasarean", "Nazorean", "Nasorean", "Nazaraean",
"Nasaraean" (plural "Nazareans", "Nasareans", "Nazoreans",
"Nasoreans", "Nazaraeans", "Nasaraeans"). Modern groups
which relate the Greek words Nazoraios and Nazarenos to the
Hebrew Netzer (branch or shoot) prefer to use the
transliteration Netzarim, the plural form of Netzer. A common
Arabic word for "Christian" is Nasrani, believed to be derived
from the same root as Nazorean, ultimately Nozrim.
http://bibleocean.com/OmniDefinition/Nazarene
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