Re: => Negligence by "trained agents" becomes a crime once they become

Bo Raxo wrote:
> "Jim Alder" <jimalder@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Bo Raxo" <crimenewscenter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "Benj" <bjacoby@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>> On May 9, 9:44 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> Boy, 5, Shoots Little Sister After Fight
>>>>>
>>>>> May 9, 2008, 1:55 PM PDT
>>>>>
>>>>>  Indianapolis -- A man whose 5-year-old son accidentally shot and 
>>>>> killed
>>>>>  his
>>>>> sister was arrested at the cemetery before the little girl's burial.
>>>>>
>>>>> James Michael Booher faces charges that include child neglect for
>>>>> allegedly leaving a semiautomatic handgun where his son could find
it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marion County Prosecutor Carl Brizzi says 26-year-old Booher should 
>>>>> have
>>>>> been more careful in keeping the gun away from his son.
>>>>>
>>>>> He says that is true especially since the boy had taken the gun from

>>>>> atop
>>>>> a refrigerator and shot a bullet into a kitchen cabinet eight months

>>>>> ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Police say her brother climbed up to the top shelf of a bookcase to
get
>>>>> the gun.
>>>>> Then shot his 4-year-old Makayla in the face.
>>>>>
>>>>> Booher was being held in the Marion County Jail on three counts of 
>>>>> felony
>>>>> neglect. He faces up to 56 years in prison.
>>>> Facts are Booher had the gun as a security guard and thus qualified
>>>> with the "training" that the "gun control" crowd demand as a
>>>> qualification for gun owner****p.  Booher had a hint that the 5 year
>>>> old had picked up a fascination with guns from TV when the boy 
>>>> previously
>>>> retrieved the gun and fired into a kitchen cabinet.
>>> The gun control crowd wants people who let a child access a loaded gun
to 
>>> be
>>> prosecuted.  The first time this 5 year old managed to get his hands
on a
>>> loaded gun, the gun owner should have been charged with a felony, and 
>>> lost
>>> his right to possess a firearm.
>>    Of course. There could be no other solution.
>>
>>    Or...
>>
>>    The first time the 5 year old climbed up on top of the fridge and
got 
>> the
>> gun, the father should have spent a few bucks on a pistol safe. Not as
>> satisfying as taking away a person's rights, but just as effective.
More 
>> so,
>> actually.
>>
> 
> I like it.  How about if he did it *before* the first time the kid found
the 
> gun.  Duh!
> 
> But the only way that would happen is if the law required him to do so .
> 
>>> Then there would have been no dead 4 year old.
>>   There are always going to be dead four year olds. Cars will back over

>> them,
>> swimming pools will claim them, buckets of water will drown them.
>>
> 
> Oh, I love this gun nut argument:  if we can't stop 100% of the deaths,
why 
> stop any at all?
> 
> Hey, there are still people who die in auto accidents.  So why bother
with 
> licenses and traffic laws safety regulations for cars - there will
always be 
> some people getting killed, right?
> 
>>   And there will always be self-righteous control freaks like yourself,

>> who
>> think the government can stop all crime, all suffering, all wrongs.
>>
> 
> There will always be liars like you who claim your opponents take some 
> ridiculous position.  What bull****.
> 
>>> That's how gun control works.
>>   Gun control has never worked. It never will.
>>
> 
> Take a look at the rest of the industrialized world: their gun laws,
their 
> gun deaths.
> 
> It works.  Proven.

All that's proven is that when guns aren't available, the people use 
something else.

 From Nationmaster.com.  The US is 38th here:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mor_con_wit_kni_swo_or_dag_percap-knife-sword-dagger-per-capita
or
http://tinyurl.com/5ksl8m

And even when guns aren't available, the people still manage to get them 
and use them.  Note that Australia and Japan both still have assaults by 
handgun:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mor_ass_by_han_dis_percap-assault-handgun-discharge-per-capita
or
http://tinyurl.com/2f2qcj

So if you don't mind citing something to show how well it works, I'll 
wait.  But not too long, since you won't be able to cite anything except 
your opinion.

-- 
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952

Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian