Re: => Herb Martin dons his white sheets ... SaPeIsMa still a racist piece of ****

Herb,
The morons who set the header are just that
    MORONS
When they can't argue the issue honestly, they only have libel and 
defamation as their response

They're not even worth acknowledging, since to do so, is to give them the 
recognition they so desperately need


"Herb Martin" <news@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Deadrat" <a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Herb Martin" <news@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Your subject line and response to me is completely incoherent
> and unrelated to any factual information.
>
> I positively sup****t the rights of ALL Americans including to
> Keep and Bear Arms.
>
> I care only about a persons ACTIONS and not anything for
> race, or other irrelevant factors.
>
> Racists are despicable.
>
> You owe an apology.
>
> I don't expect it but you still owe it and are a LIAR if it is
> not tendered forthwith.
>
> You haven't even angered me since the charge is so far out of
> alignment with reality.
>
> -- 
> Herb Martin -- and proud of both the NON-ANONYMOUS name
> AND my sup****t for rights for all.
>
>
>>> "Reality_Check©" <Reality@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> "Herb Martin" <news@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> Jim Alder wrote:
>>>>>>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>> Peter Dworkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:53:07 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>>>>>>>>>> <theprof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> SaPeIsMa wrote:>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of the crime is generated by a small subset of society.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Namely young males of black or hispanic decent living in
>>>>>>>>>>>> inner cities They generate an INORDINATE amount of the crime
>>>>>>>>>>>> and violence in the US.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then why disseminate his lunacy?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So that he and other lowlife racist ****sucking maggots like
>>>>>>>>> him may find no safe quarter ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Not even in the truth?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The truth that Christians commit more crime in the U$A,
>>>>>>> including child rape and murder?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would that be because there are more Christians in the USA than any
>>>>>> other religion? Just guessing............
>>>>>
>>>>> The only way it would even begin to be relevant would be as
>>>>> a rate or percentage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even then, some control for many other factors would be needed.
>>>>
>>>> Funny then that you lowlife knuckle-draggin' racist s***bags don't
>>>> demand the
>>>> same controls, factors and adjustments when you spew your bigoted
>>>> "blacks commit more/most crime" bull****, eh asswipe?
>>>
>>> You have responded to the WRONG PERSON.  Either apologize or
>>> explain using facts and logic.
>>>
>>> EVERYONE who is law abiding has the same rights and I will gladly
>>> defend that right no matter the race, religion (or lack of it), ***,
>>> age (if mature or sponsored by a parent), etc.
>>>
>>> One of the major problems of gun control is its racist effects and
>>> much it was simply INVENTED for racist reasons.
>>>
>>> Go read:
>>>
>>> The Racist Roots of Gun Control
>>> http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.racism.html
>>> The historical record provides compelling evidence that racism
>>> underlies gun control laws -- and not in any subtle way. Throughout
>>> much of American history, gun control was openly stated as a method
>>> for keeping blacks and Hispanics "in their place," and to quiet the
>>> racial fears of whites. This paper is intended to provide a brief
>>> summary of this unholy alliance of gun control and racism, and to
>>> suggest that gun control laws should be regarded as "suspect ideas,"
>>> analogous to the "suspect classifications" theory of discrimination
>>> already part of the American legal system. ...
>>
>> This is the kind of gun-nut logic I complain about.  And here I make my
>> mandatory disclaimer that I don't think much of gun-grabber logic
either.
>> Let's take gander shall we?
>>
>> <quote>
>> Gun control advocates today are not so foolish as to openly promote
>> racist laws, and so the question might be asked what relevance the
racist
>> past of gun control laws has. One concern is that the motivations for
>> disarming blacks in the past are really not so different from the
>> motivations for disarming law-abiding citizens today. In the last
>> century, the official rhetoric in sup****t of such laws was that "they"
>> were too violent, too untrustworthy, to be allowed weapons. Today, the
>> same elitist rhetoric regards law-abiding Americans in the same way, as
>> child-like creatures in need of guidance from the government. In the
last
>> century, while never openly admitted, one of the goals of disarming
>> blacks was to make them more willing to accept various forms of
economic
>> oppression, including the sharecropping system, in which free blacks
were
>> reduced to an economic state not dramatically superior to the
conditions
>> of slavery.
>> </quote>
>>
>> Get it?  The Confederacy is to black codes as elitists are to gun laws.
>> Southern white supremacists wanted to keep black people economically
>> enslaved the same way in which the city council of Morton Grove wants
to
>> keep its residents enslaved.  Yeah.
>>
>> <quote>
>> Today, the forces that push for gun control seem to be heavily (though
>> not exclusively) allied with political factions that are committed to
>> dramatic increases in taxation on the middle class.
>> </quote>
>>
>> Perhaps the author writing in 1993 can be forgiven for not being
>> prescient.  In 1994 the Republicans took control of the House, and from
>> 2002 to 2006, they controlled the Senate and the White House, seizing
the
>> oppotunity of power to transfer the tax burden down the economic scale
to
>> the middle class.  But these folks are the gun nuts' favorites.
>>
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