Re: England's getting odder.

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> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:30:45 GMT, "Blinky Bill" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>"Bill Smith" <quandary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:21:47 GMT, "Blinky Bill" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>"Bill Smith" <quandary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:04:43 GMT, "Blinky Bill" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>"Bill Smith" <quandary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:35:48 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
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>>>>>>>>"John Wetton" <Asia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/20080717/tuk-more-than-350-knife-crimes-a-day-45dbed5.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Too bad they can't shoot back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In England and Wales, 258 murder victims were killed with knives.
In
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>US,
>>>>>>>>1822 were killed with knives. Given the relative populations, the
>>>>>>>>ability
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>shoot back doesn't seem to have made much difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How many of those 1822 victims actually had the wherewithal to
shoot
>>>>>>> back? Most murders occur in our major population centers where
it's
>>>>>>> difficult if not impossible to get a CCL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wiki says that 39 states have "shall issue" laws, so I don't know
the
>>>>>>basis
>>>>>>for your claim that it is difficult if not impossible to get a CCL
in
>>>>>>major
>>>>>>population centres.
>>>>>
>>>>> Los Angeles area, Chicago, New York City, San Francisco bay area,
>>>>> Wa****ngton DC, etc. It's either impossible, or nearly so to get a
CCL.
>>>>
>>>>Evidence would be something more than your assertion.
>>>>
>>>>> This is where most of the crime occurs and where it's the most
>>>>> difficult to to get the means to defend yourself.
>>>>
>>>>Most crime occurs in the major population centres because that's where
>>>>most
>>>>people live.
>>>>
>>>>>The other thing is only
>>>>> a very small percentage of those who are eligible in States that
have
>>>>> shall issue have availed themselves of the op****tunity.
>>>>
>>>>But according to Lott the bad guys are deterred by not knowing who is
>>>>carrying.
>>>
>>> There has to be a larger percentage of eligible people carrying for
>>> this to be credible.
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>>He claimed he could detect the effect many years ago - in the early 90s
>>IIRC.
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>>>
>>>>> If you assume
>>>>> that a majority of Americans are legally armed, or even a
substantial
>>>>> number in places where most of the crime occurs, you would be wrong.
>>>>
>>>>According to Lott that doesn't matter - it's the increased risk that
>>>>deters
>>>>bad guys.
>>>
>>> I can't speak for Lott, I don't agree with him. I don't think there
>>> are enough people carrying to make a measurable difference in crime
>>> overall.
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>>Your opinion isn't fact or convincing evidence.
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> And your words are predominantly lies and/or dodges.

You should excuse odiousfart - I have delivered quite a few spankings to 
him. He thinks he can get revenge by stalking me and as you can see his 
comments don't address what was being discussed, but are merely personal 
abuse.