Re: England's getting odder.

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> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:40:53 GMT, "Blinky Bill" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:04:43 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
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>>>>>>>>>>"John Wetton" <Asia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/20080717/tuk-more-than-350-knife-crimes-a-day-45dbed5.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad they can't shoot back.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>In England and Wales, 258 murder victims were killed with
knives. 
>>>>>>>>>>In
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>US,
>>>>>>>>>>1822 were killed with knives. Given the relative populations,
the
>>>>>>>>>>ability
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>shoot back doesn't seem to have made much difference.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many of those 1822 victims actually had the wherewithal to 
>>>>>>>>> shoot
>>>>>>>>> back? Most murders occur in our major population centers where 
>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> difficult if not impossible to get a CCL.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Wiki says that 39 states have "shall issue" laws, so I don't know 
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>basis
>>>>>>>>for your claim that it is difficult if not impossible to get a CCL

>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>major
>>>>>>>>population centres.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Los Angeles area, Chicago, New York City, San Francisco bay area,
>>>>>>> Wa****ngton DC, etc. It's either impossible, or nearly so to get a 
>>>>>>> CCL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Evidence would be something more than your assertion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is where most of the crime occurs and where it's the most
>>>>>>> difficult to to get the means to defend yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Most crime occurs in the major population centres because that's
where
>>>>>>most
>>>>>>people live.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The other thing is only
>>>>>>> a very small percentage of those who are eligible in States that 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> shall issue have availed themselves of the op****tunity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But according to Lott the bad guys are deterred by not knowing who
is
>>>>>>carrying.
>>>>>
>>>>> There has to be a larger percentage of eligible people carrying for
>>>>> this to be credible.
>>>>
>>>>He claimed he could detect the effect many years ago - in the early
90s
>>>>IIRC.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you assume
>>>>>>> that a majority of Americans are legally armed, or even a 
>>>>>>> substantial
>>>>>>> number in places where most of the crime occurs, you would be
wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>According to Lott that doesn't matter - it's the increased risk that
>>>>>>deters
>>>>>>bad guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't speak for Lott, I don't agree with him. I don't think there
>>>>> are enough people carrying to make a measurable difference in crime
>>>>> overall.
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>>>>Your opinion isn't fact or convincing evidence.
>>>>
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>>> And your words are predominantly lies and/or dodges.
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>>You should excuse odiousfart - I have delivered quite a few spankings to
>>him. He thinks he can get revenge by stalking me and as you can see his
>>comments don't address what was being discussed, but are merely personal
>>abuse.
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> You haven't spanked anybody.

Of course I have odiousfart - take stress pill and lie down.

>All you have done is dance and dodge and claim that proves something.

Hush child and go back to sleep.

> I am simpl


Yes we know that odiousfart.