Re: England's getting odder.

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:36:25 GMT, "Blinky Bill" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:05:35 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
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>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:44:35 GMT, "Blinky Bill" 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nearly 50% of US homes re****t owning guns - the ability to
shoot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>more widespread than you think and not restricted to CCW.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you believe this is an even distribution throughout the
>>>>>>>>>>>> country?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You want me to do research for you?You will have to do that
>>>>>>>>>>>yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>>>>>> it happens the concentration is much higher in rural areas
than
>>>>>>>>>>>> cities. In areas such as rural Minnesota, where my in laws
live,
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> very nearly 100%.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The US is quite urbanised. The small pro****tion of the
population
>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>lives
>>>>>>>>>>>in rural areas just cannot account for the 200 million plus
guns 
>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>US.
>>>>>>>>>>>Only about 15% live in communities of less than 1000 people,
and a
>>>>>>>>>>>tiny
>>>>>>>>>>>fraction of that live in rural isolation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How many of these 1822 stabbing victims had guns, and/0r
CCLs?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then you are simply blowing smoke, idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You make the claim that the 1822 had access to guns.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All you can do is lie about what I have written - show me where I
>>>>>>>>>wrote
>>>>>>>>>1822
>>>>>>>>>had access to guns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL As you say - do your own research.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It isn't my research - it is your claim so it is your research. But
>>>>>>>nobody
>>>>>>>is surprised that you are lying about that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Your fevered imagination is not evidence - it often tell
>>>>>>>>>you lies like "Virginia law banned guns on campus".  ROtFLMAO
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What lie? They are, stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then cite the law Virginia law that banned guns on campus at the
time 
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>massacre.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL  You are pathetic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following link takes you to the University policies, which the
>>>>>> University has the authority to enforce from, guess wht dummycluck,
>>>>>> the state of Virginaia.
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>>>>>So it is university policy, not Virginia law.
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>>>> No, it is Universty policy that is backed by Virginia law;
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>>>Which Virginia law, odiousfart?
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>> LOL Do your own research, you lazy ying bum
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>A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO
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>>>> therefore it is a Virginia law.
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>>>Then cite the Virginia legislation that makes University policy become 
>>>state
>>>law, odiousfart.
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>> Nio need idiotstick.  The Virginia legislature granted the right to
>> the Unioversity.
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>Then cite the legislation that did that. Certainly some members of the 
>Virginia legislature didn't think the right existed, otherwise they
wouldn't 
>have tried to introduce bills giving colleges that right.

Being legislators doesn't make them immune to being wrong.





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>>  Therefore it is indeed a Virginia law.
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>Cite the law that made VT policy become state law.

Never claimed it did, you liar.  I simply point out that guns are
prohibited on the campus and the law enforces that.


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>>>As  noted below, bills put before the Virginia legislature
>>>to allow the University to ban guns were rejected.
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>>>http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/xp-21770
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>> LOL Yet the ban in place was quite legal.
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>Then cite the Virginia law that made VT policy into state law.
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>>>"And two bills seeking to give college governing boards the authority
to
>>>regulate firearms on campus died in committee during this year's
General
>>>Assembly session."
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>>>If the bills were rejected, how does the University policy have any
>>>authority under state law, which is what you claim? Let me help you
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>> No dummy boy - let me help you.  The University did indeed have the
>> authority to ban guns.
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>That is an assertion without any sup****ting evidence, odiousfart - which 
>Virginia law made VT policy into state law?

Again with the lies.  You truly are stupid.


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>> As noted in the very same article:
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>> "But the student could face disciplinary action from the university
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>So disciplinary action from the University, not from the state. I could
face 
>disciplinary action from organisations I belong to - that doesn't make
their 
>policies state law.

Never claimed it did, liar. I simply point out that the state backs
those policies.  


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>> for violating its policy prohibiting "unauthorized possession, storage
>> or control" of firearms on campus"
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>> Pretty clear, even for a moron like you.
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>A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO
>It is certainly clear that no action could be taken by the state because 
>there was only university policy, not state law, to be enforced.

The right to make University policy is granted to the University by
the state laws.

Are you too stupid to understand that?


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>>  It has the policy and the
>> right - granted to it by the state - to do so.
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>Then cite the state legislation that gives it that right.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+23-38.88
12. Seek to ensure the safety and security of the Commonwealth's
students on college and university campuses. 

Upon making such commitments to the Governor and the General Assembly
by August 1, 2005, the public institution of higher education shall be
allowed to exercise the restructured financial and operational
authority set forth in subdivisions A 1 through A 13 of § 23-38.88,
subject to such conditions as may be provided under the enabling
statutes granting the additional authority. 


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