Re: England's getting odder.

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> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:59:13 GMT, "Blinky Bill" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:17:01 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
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>>>>>>> therefore it is a Virginia law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then cite the Virginia legislation that makes University policy
become
>>>>>>state
>>>>>>law, odiousfart.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nio need idiotstick.  The Virginia legislature granted the right to
>>>>> the Unioversity.
>>>>
>>>>Then cite the legislation that did that. Certainly some members of the
>>>>Virginia legislature didn't think the right existed, otherwise they
>>>>wouldn't
>>>>have tried to introduce bills giving colleges that right.
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>>> Being legislators doesn't make them immune to being wrong.
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>>And you being a gunloon means you are almost always wrong or lying 
>>ROTFLMAO
>>Remember when you said that guns were banned at VT because Virginia law
>>banned them in K-12 schools? ROTFLMAO You were so stupid you thought VT 
>>was
>>a K-12 school, or so dishonest that you thought you could get away with
a
>>lie.
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> LOL

I was too, when I read your lie. VT is a K-12 school..... hilarious
ROTFLMAO

> And I pointed out to you that they are indeed banned by law.

You have claimed "Virginia law banned guns on campus". Unsurprisingly, you

cannot cite the Virginia law that bans guns on campus, just as you
couldn't 
prove your lie that VT is a K-12 school. You tell so many lies,
odiousfart. 
Aren't you embarrassed when you get caught? I suppose you get caught so 
often that you are acustomed to it. ROTFLMAO

>
> Keep dancing, buffoon....

A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO
But keep dancing. odiousfart.

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>>>>>  Therefore it is indeed a Virginia law.
>>>>
>>>>Cite the law that made VT policy become state law.
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>>> Never claimed it did, you liar.
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>>"Virginia law banned guns on campus".
>>
>>So you try to squirm away by claiming you  are using "Virginia law" in a
>>different sense from "the law of the state of Virginia". ROTFLMAO
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> And Virginia law does indeed ban the guns.

Then cite the Virginia state law that bans guns on campus, odiousfart. 
Handwaving and dancing about VT policy is not proof that there is a state 
law. Certainly the Virginia legislature didn't think any state law banned 
guns on campus because they introduced bills to give colleges the
authority 
to ban guns. The Virginia Tech Review Panel also didn't think there was
any 
state law banning guns on campus, because they wrote -

"The Virginia General Assembly should adopt legislation in the 2008
session 
clearly establi****ng the right of every institution of higher education in

the Commonwealth to regulate the possession of firearms on campus if it so

desires. The panel recommends that guns be banned on campus grounds and in

buildings unless mandated by law."
Only odiousfart seems to think there is already Virginia law banning guns
on 
campus. Everybody else is wrong ROTFLMAO


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>>>  I simply point out that guns are
>>> prohibited on the campus and the law enforces that.
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>>The law doesn't enforce the VT policy.
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> Sure does, stupid.

A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO
Then point out the state law that requires and enables the state to
enforce 
VT policy.

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>
>> When a VT student was found with a
>>weapon the following happened - "The unnamed student was not charged
with
>>any crimes because he holds a state-issued permit allowing him to carry
a
>>concealed gun."
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>>He wasn't charged with a crime because he didn't break any state law
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> Sure he did, stupid.

A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO
Which state law, odiousfart?
>
>
>> he
>>breached VT policy, which obviously then isn't law. Otherwise he would 
>>have
>>been charged with a crime..
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> LOL You are an idiot.

A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO

>  He certainly could have been charegd with a
> crime.

Then cite the state law which you claim he broke.

> Because the administration chose niot to do so is immaterial.

The administration can't charge him with breaking a state law, and it 
certainly can't charge him with a breaking a law that doesn't exist. 
ROTFLMAO

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>>>
>>> The right to make University policy is granted to the University by
>>> the state laws.
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>>> Are you too stupid to understand that?
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>>No,
>
> Actually, yes

You are lying again, odiousfart - I haven't written anything to suggest
that 
the University hasn't been granted the right to make its own policy. If
you 
think I have written anything that denies that VT had the right to make
its 
own policies, then cite it here, otherwise you are lying again.


What I am disputing is your claim that there is state law banning guns on 
campus. Nobody else seems to think so and you can't provide any evidence. 
Anybody more cynical than me would think you are lying. It seems the more 
spanked you get, the more lies you tell ROTFLMAO

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>
>> but you are too stupid to understand that University policy is not
>>Virginia law.
>
> But Virginia law does enforce University policy.

Then cite the Virginia law that enables that for the VT policy regarding 
guns on campus. You assertion and endless handwaving is not proof, 
odiousfart.


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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  It has the policy and the
>>>>> right - granted to it by the state - to do so.
>>>>
>>>>Then cite the state legislation that gives it that right.
>>>
>>> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+23-38.88
>>> 12. Seek to ensure the safety and security of the Commonwealth's
>>> students on college and university campuses.
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>>That doesn't mention banning guns. And it doesn't mean that University
>>policy is state law.
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> LOL  Doesn't have to, stupid. It gfrants the University the right to
> formulatethe policies it deems appropriate.

No it doesn't - can't you read, odiousfart? It doesn't grant anything.
Look 
at the title of the do***ent, stupid  "Eligibility for restructured 
financial and administrative operational authority". The do***ent
specifies 
the eligibility criteria for participating in a restructuring of state 
assistance.

>
> And the only one making some idiotic claim about University policy
> being law is **YOU** trying to dance around.

Don't lie again, odiousfart. Here is what you wrote

"The following link takes you to the University policies, which the 
University has the authority to enforce from, guess wht dummycluck, the 
state of Virginaia. Ergo, Virginia law prohibits weapons on campus as out 
lined in the policy."

So it is you claiming that University policy is law, not me. I have always

disputed your unsup****ted claim that the VT policy banning guns is
Virginia 
law. Now you want to flip-flop, as you usually do when caught in a lie.



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>>> Upon making such commitments to the Governor and the General Assembly
>>> by August 1, 2005, the public institution of higher education shall be
>>> allowed to exercise the restructured financial and operational
>>> authority set forth in subdivisions A 1 through A 13 of § 23-38.88,
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>>Sections A1 to A13 are on the URL that you cite above, at the beginning
of
>>the do***ent. It is no surprise to me (or anyone else accustomed to your
>>lies) that banning weapons is not mentioned. Feel free to point out
which 
>>of
>>A1 to A13 gives the University  the authority to ban guns on campus.
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> Glad to idiot. Here it is again
>
> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+23-38.88
> 12. Seek to ensure the safety and security of the Commonwealth's
> students on college and university campuses.
>
>
> have an adult explain it to you......

I already know that you aren't an adult, but even an adult couldn't
explain 
why the criteria for receiving financial assistance represent an authority

for VT to make laws enforceable by the state. At least you admit the 
childlike nature of your claim, odiousfart ROTFLMAO.

Obviously, you dumb as a dogturd gunloon, the do***ent you needed was 
something that gave VT authority to make laws. Here is a do***ent that
does 
that, rather than specifying eligibility for financial assistance. The
fact 
that its title includes the words "Power of governing body of educational 
institution to establish rules and regulations" would be a dead giveaway
to 
anybody smarter than a dogturd, but obviously that excludes you ROTFLMAO
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+23-9.2C3

And it is no surprise to me or anybody else that there is no mention of 
firearms or weapons in the do***ent, and it doesn't say that VT policy is 
state law.
..
This is also one of the sections that the Virginia legislature want to
amend 
with the bills that they introduced several years ago, the same bills that

the VT Review Panel recommended to be passed in the 2008 session.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?051+sum+HB2897
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?051+sum+SB1343