Re: England's getting odder.

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:57:24 GMT, "Blinky Bill" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:17:01 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
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>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> therefore it is a Virginia law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then cite the Virginia legislation that makes University policy
become
>>>>>>>state
>>>>>>>law, odiousfart.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nio need idiotstick.  The Virginia legislature granted the right to
>>>>>> the Unioversity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Then cite the legislation that did that. Certainly some members of
the
>>>>>Virginia legislature didn't think the right existed, otherwise they
>>>>>wouldn't
>>>>>have tried to introduce bills giving colleges that right.
>>>>
>>>> Being legislators doesn't make them immune to being wrong.
>>>
>>>And you being a gunloon means you are almost always wrong or lying 
>>>ROTFLMAO
>>>Remember when you said that guns were banned at VT because Virginia law
>>>banned them in K-12 schools? ROTFLMAO You were so stupid you thought VT

>>>was
>>>a K-12 school, or so dishonest that you thought you could get away with
a
>>>lie.
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>> LOL
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>I was too, when I read your lie. VT is a K-12 school..... hilarious
ROTFLMAO
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>> And I pointed out to you that they are indeed banned by law.
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>You have claimed "Virginia law banned guns on campus". 

As it does


>Unsurprisingly, you 
>cannot cite the Virginia law that bans guns on campus

Already done.



>, just as you couldn't 
>prove your lie that VT is a K-12 school. You tell so many lies,
odiousfart. 
>Aren't you embarrassed when you get caught? I suppose you get caught so 
>often that you are acustomed to it. ROTFLMAO
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>> Keep dancing, buffoon....
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>A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO
>But keep dancing. odiousfart.
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>>>>>
>>>>>>  Therefore it is indeed a Virginia law.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cite the law that made VT policy become state law.
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>>>> Never claimed it did, you liar.
>>>
>>>"Virginia law banned guns on campus".
>>>
>>>So you try to squirm away by claiming you  are using "Virginia law" in
a
>>>different sense from "the law of the state of Virginia". ROTFLMAO
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>>
>> And Virginia law does indeed ban the guns.
>
>Then cite the Virginia state law that bans guns on campus

Already done.


>, odiousfart. 
>Handwaving and dancing about VT policy is not proof that there is a state

>law. 

There are many state laws, idiot. And I cited the one that gives the
school the authority to ban guns.



>Certainly the Virginia legislature didn't think any state law banned 
>guns on campus because they introduced bills to give colleges the
authority 
>to ban guns.

No need - they had already done so.


> The Virginia Tech Review Panel also didn't think there was any 
>state law banning guns on campus, because they wrote -
>
>"The Virginia General Assembly should adopt legislation in the 2008
session 
>clearly establi****ng the right of every institution of higher education
in 
>the Commonwealth to regulate the possession of firearms on campus if it
so 
>desires. The panel recommends that guns be banned on campus grounds and
in 
>buildings unless mandated by law."
>Only odiousfart seems to think there is already Virginia law banning guns
on 
>campus. Everybody else is wrong ROTFLMAO

I simply quoted laws already on the books.  If the Tech panel is
wrong, feel free to tale it up with them



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>>>>  I simply point out that guns are
>>>> prohibited on the campus and the law enforces that.
>>>
>>>The law doesn't enforce the VT policy.
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>> Sure does, stupid.
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>A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO

Pointing out your stupidity is not abuse, but rather constructive
criticism


>Then point out the state law that requires and enables the state to
enforce 
>VT policy.

Sure, simply put it is commonly called "tresspassing"



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>>> When a VT student was found with a
>>>weapon the following happened - "The unnamed student was not charged
with
>>>any crimes because he holds a state-issued permit allowing him to carry
a
>>>concealed gun."
>>>
>>>He wasn't charged with a crime because he didn't break any state law
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>> Sure he did, stupid.
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>A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO
>Which state law, odiousfart?
>>
>>
>>> he
>>>breached VT policy, which obviously then isn't law. Otherwise he would 
>>>have
>>>been charged with a crime..
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>> LOL You are an idiot.
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>A sure sign you have been spanked when you resort to personal abuse
ROTFLMAO
>
>>  He certainly could have been charegd with a
>> crime.
>
>Then cite the state law which you claim he broke.


See above


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>> Because the administration chose niot to do so is immaterial.
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>The administration can't charge him with breaking a state law

Sure can


>, and it 
>certainly can't charge him with a breaking a law that doesn't exist. 

It does, and they can.


>ROTFLMAO
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>>>> The right to make University policy is granted to the University by
>>>> the state laws.
>>>>
>>>> Are you too stupid to understand that?
>>>
>>>No,
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>> Actually, yes
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>You are lying again, odiousfart - I haven't written anything to suggest
that 
>the University hasn't been granted the right to make its own policy.


Right above idiot. Why deny your own words?



> If you 
>think I have written anything that denies that VT had the right to make
its 
>own policies, then cite it here, otherwise you are lying again
>
>
>What I am disputing is your claim that there is state law banning guns on

>campus.

Dispute all you want; you are free to be stupid.



> Nobody else seems to think so

LOL Just you


> and you can't provide any evidence. 

Already cited - you just ignore it.



>Anybody more cynical than me would think you are lying. It seems the more

>spanked you get, the more lies you tell ROTFLMAO
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>>
>>
>>> but you are too stupid to understand that University policy is not
>>>Virginia law.
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>> But Virginia law does enforce University policy.
>
>Then cite the Virginia law that enables that 

Sure - uit is called trespass



>for the VT policy regarding 
>guns on campus. You assertion and endless handwaving is not proof, 
>odiousfart.
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>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  It has the policy and the
>>>>>> right - granted to it by the state - to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>>Then cite the state legislation that gives it that right.
>>>>
>>>> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+23-38.88
>>>> 12. Seek to ensure the safety and security of the Commonwealth's
>>>> students on college and university campuses.
>>>
>>>That doesn't mention banning guns. And it doesn't mean that University
>>>policy is state law.
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>> LOL  Doesn't have to, stupid. It gfrants the University the right to
>> formulatethe policies it deems appropriate.
>
>No it doesn't 

Sure does, stupid - can't you read?


> can't you read, odiousfart? It doesn't grant anything. Look 
>at the title of the do***ent, stupid  "Eligibility for restructured 
>financial and administrative operational authority". The do***ent
specifies 
>the eligibility criteria for participating in a restructuring of state 
>assistance.
>
>>
>> And the only one making some idiotic claim about University policy
>> being law is **YOU** trying to dance around.
>
>Don't lie again, odiousfart. Here is what you wrote
>
>"The following link takes you to the University policies, which the 
>University has the authority to enforce from, guess wht dummycluck, the 
>state of Virginaia. Ergo, Virginia law prohibits weapons on campus as out

>lined in the policy."
>
>So it is you claiming that University policy is law, not me. I have
always 
>disputed your unsup****ted claim that the VT policy banning guns is
Virginia 
>law. Now you want to flip-flop, as you usually do when caught in a lie.


No flip flop - just your stupidity.


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>>>> Upon making such commitments to the Governor and the General Assembly
>>>> by August 1, 2005, the public institution of higher education shall
be
>>>> allowed to exercise the restructured financial and operational
>>>> authority set forth in subdivisions A 1 through A 13 of § 23-38.88,
>>>
>>>Sections A1 to A13 are on the URL that you cite above, at the beginning
of
>>>the do***ent. It is no surprise to me (or anyone else accustomed to
your
>>>lies) that banning weapons is not mentioned. Feel free to point out
which 
>>>of
>>>A1 to A13 gives the University  the authority to ban guns on campus.
>>
>>
>> Glad to idiot. Here it is again
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>> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+23-38.88
>> 12. Seek to ensure the safety and security of the Commonwealth's
>> students on college and university campuses.
>>
>>
>> have an adult explain it to you......
>
>I already know that you aren't an adult

As demonstrated by your posting, you know very little.



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