Re: => Gray Ghost (Frank) truly an amoral repugnant piece of **** <= in his own words

"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harry Callahan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Morton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Morton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ says...
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pathetic attempt to justify dropping NUCLEAR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BOMBS on CIVILIAN POPULATION CENTERS -- TWICE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, what you're saying is that whole Rape of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nanking, Pearl Harbor, Bataan Death March, Unit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 731, Rape of Manila thing didn't ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have ****-all to do with the amorality of the U$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deliberately dropping NUCLEAR WEAPONS of Mass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Destruction upon CIVILIAN population centers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> killing 100,000+ innocent men, women and children
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has EVERYTHING to do with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Japan engaged in a brutal and ultimately foolish war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of genocide and aggression against its neighbors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during which it didn't show one iota of mercy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANYONE, not even its own troops and civilians.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody was going to sacrifice the lives of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> victims to protect the victimizers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Japan made a series of choices.  At the least they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should man up and own the consequences of those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choices.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it's OK in your rabid Repugnikkkan opinion to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIVILIANS, as long as they deserved it in your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infinite wisdom, eh s***bag?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What did the men, women and children of Hanking do to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deserve what they got?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How does that justify dropping NUCLEAR WEAPONS of Mass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Destruction upon 100,000+ CIVILIANS. women and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> children, in Hiro****ma and Nagasaki ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming Hiro****ma was wrong,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the thousands of innocent civilians, women and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> children in Nagasaki?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does a depraved amoral sack of **** like you attempt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to justify dropping NUCLEAR WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upon a CIVILIAN population centers, killing 100,000+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> innocent men, women and children in the process?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alright then, let's leave Hiro****ma and Nagasaki out of it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> altogether.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can one leave Hiro****ma and Nagasaki out of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion about the immorality of dropping NUCLEAR WEAPONS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Mass Destruction upon CIVILIAN population centers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slaughtering 100,000+ innocent men, women and children in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the process ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you that daft?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So there were no other "immoral" acts committed during WWII
>>>>>>>>>>>> by anyone exceot the US?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The question remains, do you have an opinion on:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Rape of Nanking?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bataan Death March?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Korean Comfort Women?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unit 731?
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Rape of Manila?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Surely you can answer this question.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just as soon as you tell me how the answer is relevant to the
>>>>>>>>>>> question of the justification for Hiro****ma and Nagasaki.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But Mommy, Billy hit me first ... so I shot Suzy in the face
>>>>>>>>>> ... to teach Billy a lesson.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That'll learn the little bastard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mommy understands you Timmy  ... you had no choice, it was shoot
>>>>>>>> Suzy in the face for what Billy did to you, or else be forced to
>>>>>>>> murder everyone in the neighborhood, then commit suicide.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This little exchange is an illustration if the intellectual
>>>>>>> vacancy which these 2 represent. And why people with thier
>>>>>>> ideologies cannot be entrusted with any kind of defense, be it
>>>>>>> personal or national. Ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "This little exchange" is a perfect illustration of the
>>>>>> intellectual vacancy for justifying Hiro****ma and Nagasaki on the
>>>>>> basis of some collective guilt for Nanking.  If you don't
>>>>>> understand this, perhaps you shouldn't be making sweeping
>>>>>> statements on people and "thier" ideologies, hmm?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I said it was deemed a military neccesity to avoid the invasion,
>>>>> justifiable under the "total war" concept
>>>>
>>>> I think I accepted this as a consistent arguement.
>>>
>>> So strategic efficiency is a moral justification for dropping NUCLEAR
>>> WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION upon 100,000+ innocent CIVILIANS ?
>>
>> Consistent arguments needn't be correct.  The justification given by
>> the military efficiency argument is that it shortened the war adn
>> thus caused fewer deaths than the other options would have.
> 
> Complete apologetic BULL****.

Your opinion is noted. 

>>> There's a reason why humanity refers to rodents as vermin, ratzo.
>>
>> You seem to think I'm endorsing this argument.  I'm not.
> 
> To the stump-stupid stammering Rightards you're engaging,
> you appear to be ... 

And I care about what stump-stupid stammering Rightards think why again?