On Apr 11, 11:19 pm, "Quran 47.4 When you meet the unbelievers in
Jihad, chop off their heads!" <Mohammedmcpi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 11, 8:55 pm, "*Anarcissie*" <anarcis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 10, 10:19 pm, "Quran 47.4 When you meet the unbelievers in
> > Jihad, chop off their heads!" <Mohammedmcpi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 10, 5:19 pm, "*Anarcissie*" <anarcis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > > On Apr 10, 3:07 pm, a...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(PeterBP) wrote:
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> > > > > *Anarcissie* <anarcis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > On Apr 8, 1:11 pm, James A. Donald <jam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Apr 6, 11:21 pm, James A. Donald
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> > > > > > > > > Rather, I think that policies such as giving one hundred
and fifty
> > > > > > > > > million dollars to Fatah in return for them promising to
refrain from
> > > > > > > > > terrorizing anyone except Jews, in return for them
promising not to
> > > > > > > > > terrorize us, policies such as privileging Muslim
polygamy while
> > > > > > > > > puni****ng Christian polygamy, policies of giving the
Muslim religion
> > > > > > > > > special privileges on state property and in state funded
institutions
> > > > > > > > > while giving Christianity special disabilities and
restrictions in
> > > > > > > > > those same institutions, though they may postpone war,
are likely to
> > > > > > > > > result in the war being more severe and more apt to be
genocidal when
> > > > > > > > > it finally happens.
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> > > > > > > > > Holy wars tend to be genocidal. Appeasement tends to
result in wars
> > > > > > > > > being bigger and more brutal when they happen. So when
we respond to
> > > > > > > > > holy war with appeasement ...
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> > > > > > > > > If we look back to the early days of the republic at the
Indian wars,
> > > > > > > > > we saw plenty of political correctness and
multiculturalism, as for
> > > > > > > > > example the early federal government's settlement with
the
> > > > > > > > > Chickamauga. It failed to take. I doubt it will take
this time
> > > > > > > > > around.
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> > > > > > > "Quran 47.4 When you meet the unbelievers in Jihad, chop off
their
> > > > > > > heads!"
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> > > > > > > > When do you get to the part of solutions?
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> > > > > > > The solution is first to stop the dhimmitude here, and
second to
> > > > > > > strike at our enemies wherever they may be: Starting with
Osama bin
> > > > > > > Laden, who is not in Afghanistan, and not in Iraq, but in
safe haven
> > > > > > > in our "ally" Pakistan.
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> > > > > > If he's not dead, or vacationing on the Riviera. Or maybe
he's
> > > > > > in New York in Trump Tower.
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> > > > > > It would have been interesting if the US government had just
> > > > > > gone after Mr. bin Laden and his friends, instead of ginning
up
> > > > > > all the mighty war and national-building crappola.
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> > > > > > 1. No war in Afghanistan -- maybe a raid or two, but if bin
Laden
> > > > > > was in Pakistan, why bother? The Taliban might well have been
> > > > > > glad to get rid of him, especially if the right people were
paid off.
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> > > > > > 2. No war in Iraq.
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> > > > > > 3. No war in Somalia.
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> > > > > > 4. ....
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> > > > > ...profit?
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> > > > Overall, imperialism isn't profitable, but I guess Bush
> > > > and Cheney and their friends in the oil business may
> > > > have made some money.
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> > > Prove it
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> > Prove what? That imperialism isn't profitable overall, or
> > that Bush and Cheney and their friends in the oil business
> > may have made some money?- Hide quoted text -
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> Show me some numbers of these "war profits".
> While you're at it, maybe look up some numbers of money made by OPEC
> nations, since they are the puppet masters of oil prices.
My statement was that Bush and Cheney and their friends
may have made some money, which seems like a reasonable
supposition given their connections to the oil business and
the profits re****ted by the oil business recently. There is
nothing to prove -- no reasonable person could question the
statement.
The contrary is that Bush, Cheney and company could not
possibly have shared at all in the recent profitability of the
oil companies. This very unlikely.
In my list of things which would have been avoided had
the U.S. chosen a police action rather than war and
nation-building (i.e. imperialism), I mentioned three wars.
Someone else mentioned profit. I replied that I thought
imperialism was a losing proposition, but that Bush etc.
might have made some money, mainly to forestall the
inevitable and boring charge that Bush etc. made some
kind of personal profit out of the wars. For some reason
you have insisted on the question. Unfortunately,
I don't know what pro****tion of current oil-company
profits can be attributed to the shortages and other
inefficiencies caused by the war; there is probably
something there. But I don't think it's very im****tant.
I think Bush and most of the people around him have
been seeking power in general, not profits (in the
sense of obtaining private wealth). Hence the empire-
building, which as we can observe has been neither
successful nor profitable. If all they meant to do was
steal, it probably would have been easier to do it at
home.
Some people do attribute the present economic
crisis to war expenditures. And it is true that every
modern empire has come to ruin of one sort or
another, often economic ruin, so they have some
history to argue from.
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