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Re: What is the point of hate laws?

by "mike d." <mikdan7@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 14, 2008 at 10:04 AM

to suppress free speech and political movements.
"Joe Bruno" <jbruno@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:52b16bed-6d12-4eb2-b358-7f0f5335a599@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Apr 12, 6:00 pm, JT <zzzxtyryyetytr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
<deletia>
>
> But unjust penalties for violent crimes aren't the greatest danger of
> hate crime laws. Their greatest danger is that they criminalize free
> speech.


No, they don't. They merely offer the judge or jury the option of
increasing jail sentences
if the violent crime is proven to be motivated by racial hatred.
This is nothing new. Motive is always considered as an element of any
violent crime at trial.


> Hate crime laws were created by the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai
> B'rith, a Jewish organization committed to demonizing--and yes,
> defaming --beliefs and values it opposes. Specifically, the ADL opposes
> anti- Israel and anti-homo***ual activism and Christian evangelism.
> Hate crime laws were not created primarily to respond to violent crime
> (which is, obviously, already illegal). They were created to
> marginalize and then criminalize certain kinds of speech and "bias" -
> primarily Christian.
>
> http://www.rense.com/general81/sud.htm





Not at all:

http://www.cahro.org/html/origin_of_hate_laws.html
 




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What is the point of hate laws?
JT <zzzxtyryyetytryey@  2008-04-12 18:00:18 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Joe Bruno <jbruno@[EMA  2008-04-13 04:27:34 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"B.H. Cramer" &  2008-04-13 22:31:17 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"Kurt Knoll" &l  2008-04-13 15:35:53 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Its all a bit strange <  2008-04-13 21:05:34 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"Silverdude" &l  2008-04-14 09:39:56 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"MasterChief" &  2008-04-16 22:47:54 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Its all a bit strange <  2008-04-17 03:04:00 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"mike d." <m  2008-04-14 10:04:04 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Al Nakba <williamhubba  2008-04-13 11:33:58 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"Herb Martin" &  2008-04-13 13:46:07 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
neogenesisfool@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-16 20:03:59 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-17 00:16:30 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-04-16 21:36:24 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-17 08:56:00 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"Kurt Knoll" &l  2008-04-21 13:55:03 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Its all a bit strange <  2008-04-21 14:50:17 
Re: What is the point of knolling?
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-21 10:09:49 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
RichD <r_delaney2001@[  2008-04-16 22:12:16 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
knucmo <knucmo23232@[E  2008-04-17 19:11:34 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"jjs" <jjs.j  2008-04-17 14:27:54 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Immortalist <reanimate  2008-04-16 22:39:21 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-17 00:42:52 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Its all a bit strange <  2008-04-17 08:07:57 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
"B.H. Cramer" &  2008-04-17 20:08:51 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Its all a bit strange <  2008-04-18 01:43:20 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-17 09:04:15 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-17 00:55:45 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Ed <solon013@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-17 06:56:29 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-17 23:12:52 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-17 23:19:32 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
kmcvay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-18 09:24:40 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Benj <bjacoby@[EMAIL P  2008-04-18 08:41:30 
Re: What is the point of hate laws?
Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-19 22:44:51 

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