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Re: Liberals: Defend capital gains taxes

by Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 20, 2008 at 01:53 PM

E.F. Hokie wrote, On 4/20/08 1:04 PM:
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:00:39 -0500, Chris Bellomy wrote...
> 
>> E.F. Hokie wrote, On 4/20/08 10:15 AM:
>>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 05:51:10 -0700 (PDT), J.C. "Watts" Enslin wrote...
>>>
>>>> On Apr 19, 12:21 am, E.F. Hokie <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:15:32 -0500, Chris Bellomy wrote...
>>>>>> Joey Telemachus wrote, On 4/18/08 11:08 PM:
>>>>>>> Why should the government get a free ride on the upside while the
>>>>>>> individual has to bear the entire burden of risk?
>>>>> ^^ EXACTLY!!! ^^ ... as for why, as my accountant says, "The law
isn't
>>>>> fair, and the government has all the power.  Pay up or go to jail."
>>>> What does risk have to do with anything?
>>> It has everything to do with it.  The only winner 100% of the time is 
>>> the government... that seems justified to you?
>> Damn government, with its fleet of Ferraris and vacations on
>> the French Riviera, flaunting its wealth...
> 
> There are quite a few people reading this group who have seen millions 
> upon millions of taxpayer dollars wasted, first-hand... you really wanna

> traipse down this particular path, Chris?

You miss my admittedly obscure point, which is that you are dumn
and stoopidl. No, wait, that's the point of most of my other posts.

No, my point is that government, properly conceived, is the
instrument of the common good, and not an entity with financial
self-interest beyond achieving its mandate as dictated by the
voters.

Now, you may fairly respond that government often is executed
to line the pockets of the corrupt, which is obviously true.
My counterpoint is that the moment we start crafting law that
assumes government to be a corrupt actor, the corruption becomes
absolutely endemic to the institution and the American experiment
fails. At some point, we have to assume that we *can* create a
government that comes pretty close to doing the right thing,
even if the current iteration doesn't.

cb
 




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Liberals: Defend capital gains taxes
Joey Telemachus <joeyT  2008-04-18 21:08:58 
Re: Liberals: Defend capital gains taxes
Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-18 23:15:32 
Re: Liberals: Defend capital gains taxes
Joey Telemachus <joeyT  2008-04-18 21:17:44 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-18 23:58:38 
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"Clave" <Cla  2008-04-18 22:14:38 
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Joey Telemachus <joeyT  2008-04-18 22:21:31 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-19 00:47:48 
Re: Liberals: Defend capital gains taxes
Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-18 23:59:26 
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Joey Telemachus <joeyT  2008-04-18 22:21:17 
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Eagle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-19 12:54:11 
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"Clave" <Cla  2008-04-18 21:59:52 
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The Downhill Battle <i  2008-04-18 22:04:12 
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E.F. Hokie <nospam@[EM  2008-04-19 01:21:46 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-19 00:55:41 
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George Grapman <sfgeor  2008-04-18 22:58:55 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-19 01:33:50 
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Eagle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-19 12:57:25 
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Patrick Karl <jpkarl@[  2008-04-19 10:47:40 
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"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-04-20 08:22:10 
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<ahall@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-20 08:39:56 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-20 12:58:49 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-20 18:58:10 
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Dennis J <drjudsjr@[EM  2008-04-21 10:54:34 
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Eagle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-19 12:49:45 
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John Rogers <tiger7_88  2008-04-19 10:30:10 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-19 14:36:14 
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lein <boomer_the_cat@[  2008-04-19 12:54:53 
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Eagle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-19 20:45:05 
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<ahall@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-04-20 08:38:48 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-20 16:39:37 
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"J.C. \"Watts\&  2008-04-20 05:51:10 
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E.F. Hokie <nospam@[EM  2008-04-20 11:15:18 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-20 13:00:39 
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E.F. Hokie <nospam@[EM  2008-04-20 14:04:01 
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"the Bede" <  2008-04-20 13:12:17 
Re: Liberals: Defend capital gains taxes
Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-20 13:53:58 
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E.F. Hokie <nospam@[EM  2008-04-20 15:05:02 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-20 14:31:37 
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The BorgMan <me@[EMAIL  2008-04-21 19:59:49 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-20 19:07:38 
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"C The Shocker"  2008-04-21 02:41:19 
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Dennis J <drjudsjr@[EM  2008-04-21 10:58:58 
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"J.C. \"Watts\&  2008-04-20 13:57:29 
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OrangeSFO <intangible1  2008-04-20 20:40:26 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-23 21:09:34 
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"DaVoice" <d  2008-04-24 11:46:43 
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George Grapman <sfgeor  2008-04-24 11:52:23 
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rich hammett <bubbaric  2008-04-24 14:12:00 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-24 15:23:12 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-24 18:41:59 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-24 18:43:30 
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"da pickle" <  2008-04-24 19:22:35 
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Eric Kemp <eric.kemp@[  2008-04-24 20:26:59 
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"da pickle" <  2008-04-24 19:33:09 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-25 02:28:52 
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"da pickle" <  2008-04-25 07:40:37 
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"Randolph M. Jones&q  2008-04-25 09:53:54 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-25 14:33:16 
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"da pickle" <  2008-04-25 09:53:34 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-25 12:45:10 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-25 12:44:09 
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"Guy" <nospa  2008-04-24 17:28:32 
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Patrick Karl <jpkarl@[  2008-04-25 10:43:11 
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"Bob T." <bo  2008-04-24 13:46:32 
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"da pickle" <  2008-04-24 16:38:23 
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Patrick Karl <jpkarl@[  2008-04-25 10:48:47 
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"da pickle" <  2008-04-25 11:08:27 
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"Bob T." <bo  2008-04-24 14:52:54 
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"da pickle" <  2008-04-24 17:03:57 
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Del Tompkins <del@[EMA  2008-04-25 00:32:12 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-24 22:31:33 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-24 22:33:49 
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ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-06-02 00:26:19 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-06-01 18:15:07 
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Eagle@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-02 13:51:58 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-06-02 10:18:18 
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ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-06-03 11:39:50 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-06-01 20:07:04 
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"C The Shocker"  2008-06-02 00:20:58 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-06-01 20:38:47 
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"chadbryant.net"  2008-06-02 01:30:31 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-06-01 22:53:24 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-06-02 03:54:31 
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"chadbryant.net"  2008-06-02 09:30:34 
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"Orson Wells as Citi  2008-06-02 23:21:59 
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ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (P  2008-06-03 17:31:50 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-06-01 22:24:08 
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Dennis J <drjudsjr@[EM  2008-06-07 02:29:24 
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"NapalmHeart" &  2008-04-19 01:51:03 
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"Lord Gow333, Conser  2008-04-20 08:24:27 
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"NapalmHeart" &  2008-04-20 13:27:45 
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"BillB" <bog  2008-04-19 06:36:01 
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Hothead McCain <no@[EM  2008-04-19 07:04:37 
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Patrick Karl <jpkarl@[  2008-04-19 10:53:40 
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"BillB" <bog  2008-04-19 19:40:06 
Re: Republicans: Too Greedy to Pay Their Fair Share
"Jim L. Fixit"   2008-04-20 06:18:47 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-20 16:35:47 
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"C The Shocker"  2008-04-20 17:27:29 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-20 17:31:53 
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"the Bede" <  2008-04-20 12:33:37 
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"C The Shocker"  2008-04-21 01:57:47 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-20 22:20:51 
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"C The Shocker"  2008-04-21 02:31:49 
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Chris Bellomy <ten.woh  2008-04-20 13:02:19 
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E.F. Hokie <nospam@[EM  2008-04-20 14:04:47 
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"mccard" <no  2008-04-20 13:08:51 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-23 21:19:02 
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rich hammett <bubbaric  2008-04-24 02:24:29 
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Michael Price <nini_pa  2008-04-24 22:29:59 
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"Bob T." <bo  2008-04-24 23:49:34 
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"Irish Mike" &l  2008-04-25 03:17:22 
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