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Re: 9th Amendment: a dead letter?

by Deadrat <a@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 3, 2008 at 05:46 AM

"Herb Martin" <news@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
news:481beed6$1$30501$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

> 
> "Larry" <x@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:x-F5780A.22462202052008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> In article <H8QSj.107$aA1.29@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> "Scout" <me4guns@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
> 
> 
>>> Quite right. I accept your admission that ANY violation of our
>>> rights is contrary to the language of the Constitution.
>>>
>>> There. Happy?
>>>
>>> I mean I was willing to give you a little slack, but seems you want
>>> to hold
>>> me right to the letter of the Constitution.
>>
>> Why can't I go to the governor's mansion and protest in his bedroom? 
>> I mean, I have the right to free speech, and not letting me speak in
>> his bedroom is a violation of my rights!
> 
> You really have wasted your father's money on a substandard education
> if you don't know this one OR if you don't know that it doesn't apply.
> 
> There is a difference between a relevant point and mere fallacious
> argument, but someone lawyers never seem to understand this
> fact.
> 
> Your rights end where my right begin.
> 
> You CAN go and protest, just not necessarily WHERE you choose
> if it violates someone elses rights unreasonably.
> 
> I have already suggested that you might look to the Right to Peacably
> Assemble for just the type of infringements that are in fact within
> the bounds of the Constitution.
> 
> You cannot break into my house to eat, sleep, speak, or use your RKBA
> either, but that doesn't prevent your from exercising your rights on
> your own property or in public areas.
> 
> You cannot be stopped from "assembling" on the mere pretext of
> "public safety" but you can be made to conform with fire marshall
> laws to do so safely.
> 
> Parade permits are (possibly) legal, but they MUST be issued
> to EVERYONE fairly, and the mere fact that a permit is required
> for (demonstrable) safety reasons CANNOT be used to prevent
> the Free Speech or Freedom to Assemble you enjoy.
> 
> Laws that require Concealed Carry (CHL etc) permits MIGHT be
> written so as to be constitutional but I don't know of any except that
> in Alaska.
> 
> Certainly no one has shown that they provide any useful public
> safety function.  Feel free to try if you wish.
> 
> None of the CDC, the National Academy of Sciences, nor DoJ
> was able to find that ANY gun control reduces VIOLENT CRIME,
> SUICIDE or ACCIDENTS in any significant manner.
> 
> Whenever gun control laws are reviewed, they always come out as
> either making "no difference" or actually making crime, murder,
> etc WORSE.
> 
> Either way, they cannot meet the test -- apparently. 

You mean that you don't like them.  That's not a test that a court must 
apply.
 




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Re: 9th Amendment: a dead letter?
"Herb Martin" &  2008-05-02 23:49:26 
Re: 9th Amendment: a dead letter?
Larry <x@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-03 01:04:26 
Re: 9th Amendment: a dead letter?
Deadrat <a@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-03 05:46:11 

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