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Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incident

by John Graeme <jdgraeme@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 08:31 AM

On May 5, 5:22 am, "Bo Raxo" <crimenewscen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "the big dog" <thebyg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
messagenews:e7f812f2-be88-4829-ac50-d3a65b33d873@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On May 5, 8:14 am, "Bo Raxo" <crimenewscen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> "the big dog" <thebyg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
messagenews:5517c2a8-
d415-477b-8256-244d521d91a6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> > How on earth can a crowd of people be intimidated in any fa****on
> >> > whatsoever by a goddamn symbol?  It's ridiculous and infantile.
>
> >> Because it can be construed as a threat of real violence.  Like, say,
if
> >> there was a history of black people being lynched....duh.  Murders of
> >> complete strangers for reasons of race (and ***ual orientation) still
> >> occur
> >> today, or aren't you aware of that?
>
> > In public? surrounded by scores of other folk of similar race?  For
> > gods sake, grow a pair and learn to live in a free society, or move to
> > one that is more to your liking.
>
> Dimwit,  while the symbol of the threat may be in a public place with
plenty
> of witnesses, that doesn't mean the violence will be carried out right
then
> and there.  Do you think James Byrd was killed in broad daylight?  Have
you
> never heard of the history of lynchings - often carried out in the dead
of
> night, when a victim was caught out at night or dragged from his home.


The problem is that with that broad a definition of "intimidating" a
great many common things and actions could be construed as
intimidating enough to charge the peson with a crime.


> > Of course, there's always the third option of ****canning your
> > constitution and changing your own society into one that is
> > sufficiently totalitarian.
>
> Of course, it's easy to win an argument if you just make **** up the
other
> person didn't say.  You asked why a symbol could be intimidating, I told
you
> why.  I didn't say it should be outlawed, now did I?  I wouldn't outlaw
> Nazis getting a permit to march down a public street.  But I'd be naive
to
> think some people didn't find the existence of such a group in their
> community intimidating.

If you are opposed to charging the person with a crime just for having
a noose on his truck, then we are in substantial agreement.

> You're the one that needs to grow a set - of neurons.  Unfortunately,
> doesn't happen post-partum.

Those sort of ad hominens don't exactly illustrate great intelligence
on your part either.
 




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John Graeme <jdgraeme@  2008-04-26 10:01:49 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
"Frank Arthur"   2008-04-26 13:37:35 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
John Graeme <jdgraeme@  2008-04-26 14:50:25 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
the big dog <thebygdog  2008-05-04 00:11:59 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
"Bo Raxo" <c  2008-05-04 15:14:17 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
the big dog <thebygdog  2008-05-04 00:12:58 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
Really? <g467504@[EMAI  2008-05-29 23:42:23 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
the big dog <thebygdog  2008-05-05 01:50:41 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
"Bo Raxo" <c  2008-05-05 02:22:41 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
"tiny dancer" &  2008-05-05 10:14:49 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
"Bo Raxo" <c  2008-05-05 17:30:46 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
John Graeme <jdgraeme@  2008-05-05 08:31:57 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
"Bo Raxo" <c  2008-05-05 17:44:51 
Re: Another Blow to Freedom of Speech: Teen in Jena noose incide
"Petre.Moss" &l  2008-05-30 10:55:01 

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