On Mar 31, 10:40 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >On Mar 31, 4:25 pm, "Stephen Wilson"
> ><stephen.wilson2004nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> >>news:vhe2v39comffg7jm9avcranqf043qge4ln@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> > I can assure you that "the causative factors related to the
> >> > unexplained effects" definitely have nothing to do with homeopathy,
> >> > but are all to do with incompetent research or self-delusion (or
> >> > both).
>
> >> Sceptic James Randi is so convinced that homeopathy will not work,
that he
> >> has offered $1m to anyone who can provide convincing evidence of its
> >> effects. For the first time in the programme's history, Horizon (a
respected
> >> BBC TV programme) conducted its own scientific experiment, to try and
win
> >> his money. If they succeeded, they would not only be $1m richer -
they would
> >> also force scientists to rethink some of their fundamental beliefs.
>
> >> The programme gathered a team of scientists from among the most
respected
> >> institutes in the country. The Vice-President of the Royal Society,
> >> Professor John Enderby oversaw the experiment, and James Randi flew
in from
> >> the United States to watch.
>
> >> As with Benveniste's original experiment, Randi insisted that strict
> >> precautions be taken to ensure that none of the experimenters knew
whether
> >> they were dealing with homeopathic solutions, or with pure water. Two
> >> independent scientists performed tests to see whether their samples
produced
> >> a biological effect. Only when the experiment was over was it
revealed which
> >> samples were real.
>
> >> To Randi's relief, the experiment was a total failure. The scientists
were
> >> no better at deciding which samples were homeopathic than pure chance
would
> >> have been.
>
> >Meaningless. NOBODY will ever collect
> >the Randi challenge for ANYTHING. To find
> >out why, google for the antics of Randi and his
> >magician sidekick as they made a complete
> >shambles of the research that Benveniste,
> >a fully credentialed and legitimate researcher,
> >was attempting. Questioning every
> >single thing, the air, the dust in the room
> >the cosmic rays that might be passing
> >by to "influence" the results... etc.,
> >ad infinitum, Randi
> >can argue his way out of any result.
>
> >Ennis, completely skeptical of Benveniste's
> >results, repeated the experiments without
> >Randi and got positive results. Three out
> >of four international labs also got
> >positive results when scientfic
> >amateur Randi and cohorts were kept away.
>
> >CitizenJimserac
>
> Was I right, Stephen?
>
> Did you notice how CJ responded to your description of what happened
> by saying "google for the antics of Randi"? He didn't even bother to
> read what you wrote.
>
> --
> Peter Bowditch aa #2243
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I did read it. If you google for Randi's antics, you will learn
that he distracted the experimenters constantly and turned
a scientific experiment into a circus sideshow, just as intended.
Citizen Jimserac
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