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> "Peter Moran" <pmoran@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> I don't believe that they can produce 30% 5 ysr on patients with
>> metastatic lung cancer and the other figures need more detailed
analysis.
>> The five year rates of breast and colon cancer with lymph gland spread
>> are in excess of 50% so that the exact mix of patients needs to be
>> known..
>
> That is what happens when you promote allopathy, you end up believing
your
> own propaganda
>
> If the patient has not undergone any conventional treatment (especially
> chemotherapy or radiotherapy), GNM has a success rate of 95 to 98
percent.
> Ironically these statistics for Dr. Hamer's remarkable success rate were
> delivered by the authorities themselves.
No, you cannot just make things up, John. In the their own speil, the
Contreras clinic makes it clear that the results they claim are those of
the
combination of convenitonal and alternative methods they themselves
employ.
Remember Liam Holliday-Williams the famous New Zealand case? They gave
him
chemotherapy when alternative methods failed to control his
neuroblastoma.
They claim 95% results even in stage lV cancer, up to 1981. Yet three
naturopaths, in a search for alternative methods worthy of further
interest, followed up 31 patients treated by Contreras at his Mexican
clinic in 1983-84 using postal questionnaires [7]. The patients were
treated with Laetrile, a modified vegan diet, proteolytic enzymes, and
antioxidant supplements. 9 of the patients were lost to follow-up,
suggesting death or decline in at least most. The 22 remaining patients
were confirmed to have died within a mean period of seven months.
See: Long Term Follow-up of cancer patients using Contreras, Hoxsey and
Gerson therapies. Austin S et al. J. Naturopathic Med. 1994; 5(1):74-75
This was published as in
>When Dr. Hamer was arrested in 1997 for having given three people medical
>advice without a medical license, the police confiscated his patients'
>files and had them analyzed. Subsequently, one public prosecutor was
forced
>to admit during the trial that, after five years, 6,000 out of 6,500
>patients with mostly "terminal" cancer were still alive. With
conventional
>treatment the figures are generally just the reverse. [2007 pdf] Dr.
>Hamer's Medical Paradigm By Caroline Markolin, Ph.D.
>http://whale.to/cancer/hamer.html
This is a blatant fiction. WHy do alternaitve sup****ters lie so much?
Hamer is a absolute nut who belieives that cancer is something that people
bring on themselves -- the cruelist, and most stupid, and the most
conrary
to all experience and empirical evidence, of all the crazy notions that
alternative medicine has ever come up with.
PM
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