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>, Peter Moran wrote:
> "JOHN" <john@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Peter Moran" <pmoran@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> I don't believe that they can produce 30% 5 ysr on patients with
>>> metastatic lung cancer and the other figures need more detailed
analysis.
>>> The five year rates of breast and colon cancer with lymph gland spread
>>> are in excess of 50% so that the exact mix of patients needs to be
>>> known..
>>
>> That is what happens when you promote allopathy, you end up believing
your
>> own propaganda
>>
>> If the patient has not undergone any conventional treatment (especially
>> chemotherapy or radiotherapy), GNM has a success rate of 95 to 98
percent.
>> Ironically these statistics for Dr. Hamer's remarkable success rate
were
>> delivered by the authorities themselves.
>
> No, you cannot just make things up, John.
Warn us next time, would you? This is a very nice wireless keyboard
and the beer wasn't bad either.
> In the their own speil, the
> Contreras clinic makes it clear that the results they claim are those of
the
> combination of convenitonal and alternative methods they themselves
employ.
> Remember Liam Holliday-Williams the famous New Zealand case? They gave
him
> chemotherapy when alternative methods failed to control his
neuroblastoma.
>
> They claim 95% results even in stage lV cancer, up to 1981. Yet three
> naturopaths, in a search for alternative methods worthy of further
> interest, followed up 31 patients treated by Contreras at his Mexican
> clinic in 1983-84 using postal questionnaires [7]. The patients were
> treated with Laetrile, a modified vegan diet, proteolytic enzymes, and
> antioxidant supplements. 9 of the patients were lost to follow-up,
> suggesting death or decline in at least most. The 22 remaining
patients
> were confirmed to have died within a mean period of seven months.
>
> See: Long Term Follow-up of cancer patients using Contreras, Hoxsey and
> Gerson therapies. Austin S et al. J. Naturopathic Med. 1994; 5(1):74-75
So? What do you expect a bunch of ****lls on the payroll of the Evil
Organized Chemotherapy Conspiracy to say. The very fact that the
enemies of Truth, Justice, and Choice of Realities had to hire a
bunch of no-names like them to do their hatchet job shows how
desperate they are.
If the Contreras, Hoxsey and Gerson therapies *really* didn't work,
they could have gotten a top-flight expert like Gonzales to say so.
>> This was published as in
>>When Dr. Hamer was arrested in 1997 for having given three people
medical
>>advice without a medical license, the police confiscated his patients'
>>files and had them analyzed. Subsequently, one public prosecutor was
forced
>>to admit during the trial that, after five years, 6,000 out of 6,500
>>patients with mostly "terminal" cancer were still alive. With
conventional
>>treatment the figures are generally just the reverse. [2007 pdf] Dr.
>>Hamer's Medical Paradigm By Caroline Markolin, Ph.D.
>>http://whale.to/cancer/hamer.html
>
> This is a blatant fiction. WHy do alternaitve sup****ters lie so much?
> Hamer is a absolute nut who belieives that cancer is something that
people
> bring on themselves -- the cruelist, and most stupid, and the most
conrary
> to all experience and empirical evidence, of all the crazy notions that
> alternative medicine has ever come up with.
It can't be wrong, since despite the things that different schools of
alternative medicine disagree about [1] one of the few things that
they *do* agree on is that cancer is entirely the fault of the victim,
except in cases where it's been maliciously caused by Evil Organized
Medicine.
[1] Well, not publicly. There's an understanding that they don't
do that sort of thing in places like MHA.
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