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Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine

by "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 3, 2008 at 02:09 PM

In message <buCdnRRHzI01VIHVnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Peter Moran wrote:
> "JOHN" <john@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:vOSdnQIFe7Es2YHVnZ2dnUVZ8sKlnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Peter Moran" <pmoran@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:ZOydnVUKd4qyd4bVnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> I don't believe that they can produce 30% 5 ysr on patients with 
>>> metastatic lung cancer and the other figures need more detailed
analysis. 
>>> The five year rates of breast and colon cancer with lymph gland spread

>>> are in excess of 50% so that the exact mix of patients needs to be 
>>> known..
>>
>> That is what happens when you promote allopathy, you end up believing
your 
>> own propaganda
>>
>> If the patient has not undergone any conventional treatment (especially

>> chemotherapy or radiotherapy), GNM has a success rate of 95 to 98
percent. 
>> Ironically these statistics for Dr. Hamer's remarkable success rate
were 
>> delivered by the authorities themselves.
> 
> No, you cannot just make things up,  John.

Warn us next time, would you?  This is a very nice wireless keyboard
and the beer wasn't bad either.

> In the their own speil, the  
> Contreras clinic makes it clear that the results they claim are those of
the 
> combination of convenitonal and alternative methods they themselves
employ. 
> Remember Liam Holliday-Williams the famous New Zealand case?  They gave
him 
> chemotherapy when  alternative methods failed to control his
neuroblastoma.
> 
> They claim 95% results even in stage lV cancer, up to 1981.   Yet three 
> naturopaths, in a search for alternative methods  worthy of further 
> interest,  followed up 31 patients  treated by Contreras at his Mexican 
> clinic in 1983-84  using postal questionnaires [7].   The patients were 
> treated with Laetrile, a modified vegan diet, proteolytic enzymes, and 
> antioxidant supplements.  9 of the patients were lost to follow-up, 
> suggesting death or decline in at least most.   The 22 remaining
patients 
> were confirmed to have died within a mean period of seven months.
> 
> See: Long Term Follow-up of cancer patients using Contreras, Hoxsey and 
> Gerson therapies.  Austin S et al. J. Naturopathic Med. 1994; 5(1):74-75

So?  What do you expect a bunch of ****lls on the payroll of the Evil
Organized Chemotherapy Conspiracy to say.  The very fact that the
enemies of Truth, Justice, and Choice of Realities had to hire a
bunch of no-names like them to do their hatchet job shows how
desperate they are.

If the Contreras, Hoxsey and Gerson therapies *really* didn't work,
they could have gotten a top-flight expert like Gonzales to say so.

>> This was published as in
>>When Dr. Hamer was arrested in 1997 for having given three people
medical 
>>advice without a medical license, the police confiscated his patients' 
>>files and had them analyzed. Subsequently, one public prosecutor was
forced 
>>to admit during the trial that, after five years, 6,000 out of 6,500 
>>patients with mostly "terminal" cancer were still alive. With
conventional 
>>treatment the figures are generally just the reverse. [2007 pdf] Dr. 
>>Hamer's Medical Paradigm By Caroline Markolin, Ph.D. 
>>http://whale.to/cancer/hamer.html
> 
> This is a blatant fiction.   WHy do alternaitve sup****ters lie so much? 
> Hamer is a absolute nut who belieives that cancer is something that
people 
> bring on themselves --  the cruelist, and most stupid, and the most
conrary 
> to all experience and empirical evidence, of all the crazy notions that 
> alternative medicine has ever come up with.

It can't be wrong, since despite the things that different schools of
alternative medicine disagree about [1] one of the few things that
they *do* agree on is that cancer is entirely the fault of the victim,
except in cases where it's been maliciously caused by Evil Organized
Medicine.

[1] Well, not publicly.  There's an understanding that they don't
    do that sort of thing in places like MHA.

-- 
| **** happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
+--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---+
 



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The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
PeterB <pkm@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 17:54:45 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
drceephd@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-02 18:43:45 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
"Peter Moran" &  2008-05-03 14:29:36 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
"JOHN" <john  2008-05-03 11:55:49 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
"Peter Moran" &  2008-05-04 06:23:05 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
"D. C. Sessions"  2008-05-03 14:09:01 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
"JOHN" <john  2008-05-05 09:08:16 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
"JOHN" <john  2008-05-05 09:44:59 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
"Hawki" <Haw  2008-05-05 09:29:44 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
Citizen Jimserac <Jims  2008-05-03 05:57:59 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
drceephd@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-03 07:20:52 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
PeterB <pkm@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-03 15:12:01 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
drceephd@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-05 13:44:29 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
"D. C. Sessions"  2008-05-05 19:59:11 
Re: The Real Cancer Healers ... and the Future of Medicine
Citizen Jimserac <Jims  2008-05-06 10:36:09 

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