Re: The Myth Of Occupied Gaza

"Viejo Vizcacha" <nats_uglyman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 10, 11:29 pm, "Peter Webb"
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>> "Viejo Vizcacha" <elbie_jovis_ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> > Peter Webb wrote:
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>> >> "Viejo Vizcacha" <nats_ugly...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> On May 10, 2:41 pm, "simple_langu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> <simple_langu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>>>
source:http://www.wa****ngtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/09/AR200...
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>> >>>> authors: David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey are Wa****ngton
lawyers
>> >>>> who served in the Justice Department under Presidents Ronald
Reagan
>> >>>> and George H.W. Bush. They were members of the U.N. Subcommission
on
>> >>>> the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights from 2004 to 2007.
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>> >>> Nuff said. I do not even have to read that piece to know it does
not
>> >>> bring anything different than what is being pushed by AIPAC.
>>
>> >>> VV
>>
>> >> You should have read it. It makes a compelling case that Gaza and
the
>> >> West Bank are not "occupied territory", and Israel has (essentially)

>> >> no
>> >> duty-of-care over the residents of that area.
>>
>> > Nobody asked Israel to take care of the residents of Gaza. What is
>> > requested is that Israel does not strangle Gaza.
>>
>> > VV
>>
>> Yes they are. They want Israel to provide it with fuel, food, and
>> electricity.
>>
>> Israel is doing *nothing* to stop Gaza obtaining these; all it is doing

>> is
>> refusing to supply unlimitted quantities of these itself.
>>
>
> Nope. Every ****p that approaches Gaza risks to be sunk by Israel that
> control the waters around Gaza.

No. Israel enforces an embargo only on im****ting weapons; a not
unreasonable 
position given these weapons would very likely be used to try and kill 
Israelis.

I am unaware of Israel sinking a ****p for refusing to comply with this 
restriction, or even getting anywhere close to doing so. Of course, if you

had a link to sup****t your assertion, I might change my opinion. You
don't, 
do you?


> Israel controls the waters, the air,
> and even the land of Gaza.

Also patently untrue. If Israel controlled Gaza, they wouldn't allow
people 
in Gaza to shoot rockets into Israel. Obviously.



> Israel is the master of Gaza, and acts like
> the guards in German extermination camps.
>

This is your opinion, but is completely unsup****ted by any evidence. The 
"facts" which you seem to base this statement on (as listed by you above) 
are obviously false.

If your "facts" turn out to be wrong, will you change your opinion?

If not, there would seem little points in discussing the "facts", as you 
don't care about facts in forming your opinion. If you are prepared to 
change your opinions on the basis of facts (as I am), I am happy to
continue 
pointing out any factual errors in your posts, as indeed I welcome you to 
point out any errors of fact in mine.