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Re: The Myth Of Occupied Gaza

by Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_jovis_kasha@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 09:51 AM

Peter Webb wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you happy to change your opinions if your "facts" turn out to 
>>>>> be wrong?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.btselem.org/english/gaza_strip/gaza_status.asp
>>>>
>>>
>>> That site does not claim that Israel is stopping anything or anybody 
>>> entering or leaving Gaza, other than weapons.
>>
>> That site clearly states:
>>
>> "Air space and territorial waters: Israel continues to maintain 
>> complete control over the air and sea space of the Gaza Strip. Control 
>> of the air space provides Israel with the ability to effectively and 
>> easily control actions on the ground, and to interfere with radio and 
>> television broadcasts.
> 
> It doesn't actually say that Israel does any of those things. It says it

> gives them the capability to do it, but not even this very biased site 
> actually claims that Israel does this.
> 
> 
>> Control of the coastal area and territorial waters enables Israel , 
>> among other things, to restrict the activity of Palestinian fishermen.
> 
> Of course, not even this biased site claims that Israel does any of 
> these things; merely that it could if it wanted to.
> 


Biased? I guess anyone who is not celebrating the murdering of 
Palestinians is biased.



>>  Israel 's control is also manifested in the need to obtain Israeli 
>> approval to operate a sea****t and air****t, the lack of which impairs 
>> freedom of movement to and from the Gaza Strip and impairs the 
>> Palestinians' conduct of foreign trade."
>>
> 
> Of course, not even this site claims that Israel has actually restricted

> the right to construct them.
> 

This site does not have to. Gazan fishermen canot even venture into sea 
to fish.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6047764.stm

"Every night off Gaza beach you can see the lights of fi****ng boats 
rising and falling in the swell. But they are defying an Israeli ban on 
all Palestinian fi****ng, and Rami al-Habeel knows how dangerous that can 
be."

Therefore, tehre is a ban on fi****ng, and those who dare to go out to 
find food risk being murdered by Israelis.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=99701

So, nobody can deny that the terrorist state of Israel is committing 
gross human rights violations



> I also find it interesting that this site talks about the potential for 
> Israel to block TV broadcasts in Gaza (which it has never in fact done),

> but doesn't mention anything about Israel actually blockading anything 
> at all, not even weapons funnily enough.
> 


So, this site does not even mention that Israel is blockading weapons. 
Therefore, stupid people can conclude that Israel is not even blockading 
the entry of weapons.

VV
 




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The Myth Of Occupied Gaza
"simple_language@[EM  2008-05-10 11:41:10 
Re: The Myth Of Occupied Gaza
Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-10 13:03:00 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 11:41:49 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-10 22:48:06 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 13:29:00 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-13 18:39:26 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-14 01:41:16 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-10 20:43:14 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 14:08:56 
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fasgnadh <fasgnadh@[EM  2008-06-01 19:36:57 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-06-01 21:17:20 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-06-01 09:25:39 
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Martin <usenet1@[EMAIL  2008-06-01 09:31:51 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-06-01 09:44:54 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-06-02 01:47:50 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 12:36:15 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-11 08:24:23 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 13:49:06 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-10 21:20:41 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 14:41:06 
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andycooper3@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 01:21:00 
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Siobhan Medeiros <sbm2  2008-05-11 01:27:17 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 16:11:37 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 21:54:20 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 16:08:02 
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Siobhan Medeiros <sbm2  2008-05-11 01:34:19 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 16:09:03 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-11 12:53:34 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 16:45:41 
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Siobhan Medeiros <sbm2  2008-05-11 01:43:24 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 21:59:50 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-11 08:18:09 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 23:27:14 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-11 09:34:00 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 00:15:10 
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BikeFan <mistontheloch  2008-05-11 09:42:41 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 15:08:59 
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BikeFan <mistontheloch  2008-05-11 11:24:31 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 18:50:59 
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andycooper3@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 01:58:00 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 22:24:02 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-11 08:46:33 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 13:57:05 
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fasgnadh <fasgnadh@[EM  2008-05-12 00:49:43 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 18:58:02 
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"Tex" <tropi  2008-05-12 08:38:32 
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fasgnadh <fasgnadh@[EM  2008-06-01 12:25:02 
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Ted Roberts <ted.rober  2008-05-31 22:55:41 
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fasgnadh <fasgnadh@[EM  2008-06-01 14:08:28 
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"William Black"  2008-06-01 12:05:50 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-06-01 09:24:23 
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"Tex" <tropi  2008-05-12 08:34:01 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 23:39:48 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-11 09:51:09 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 00:19:38 
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"Osric" <osr  2008-05-13 03:09:48 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 06:16:29 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 15:06:07 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 07:20:16 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 18:54:17 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 07:59:08 
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BikeFan <mistontheloch  2008-05-11 11:26:25 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 18:50:12 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 08:09:29 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 10:31:27 
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fasgnadh <fasgnadh@[EM  2008-06-01 13:52:51 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 10:39:39 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 19:17:06 
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David Johnston <david@  2008-05-11 20:31:28 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 19:15:04 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 19:58:36 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-11 15:39:38 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 21:45:27 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-11 19:35:40 
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"William Black"  2008-05-12 10:12:37 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 11:34:29 
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"William Black"  2008-05-11 19:57:03 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 13:35:44 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 13:37:03 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 13:47:27 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 23:31:29 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 10:48:20 
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Ted Roberts <ted.rober  2008-05-31 23:45:12 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 14:09:32 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 11:20:40 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 14:10:29 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 23:07:34 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 23:23:41 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 14:15:29 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 23:10:22 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 16:46:22 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 17:15:30 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 17:27:02 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 17:31:57 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 17:34:37 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 17:48:32 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 17:59:11 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 18:11:31 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 18:14:11 
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andycooper3@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 18:15:46 
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"William Black"  2008-05-12 10:10:52 
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andycooper3@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-11 18:19:32 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-11 18:30:50 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 18:41:30 
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docremington <docremin  2008-05-11 20:56:40 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 22:56:45 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 16:59:18 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 23:19:58 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 17:15:38 
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"Osric" <osr  2008-05-13 02:54:43 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-11 23:23:50 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 23:17:47 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 02:02:19 
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parris_k@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 02:28:39 
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Nobody <not@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 23:20:31 
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Viejo Vizcacha <nats_u  2008-05-12 07:08:30 
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"William Black"  2008-05-12 17:44:57 
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"Boedicia@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 10:19:25 
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"Boedicia@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 10:25:03 
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Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_  2008-05-12 15:11:51 
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"Dan Haim" <  2008-05-12 22:26:20 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 17:23:55 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 17:26:31 
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"simple_language@[EM  2008-05-12 20:30:43 
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docremington <docremin  2008-05-13 09:14:56 
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docremington <docremin  2008-05-13 09:48:03 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-13 18:24:05 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-14 14:26:57 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-13 18:38:26 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-14 14:42:59 
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tropicus@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-13 18:59:31 
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parris_k@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-14 02:20:26 
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"Osric" <osr  2008-05-15 15:34:43 
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"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-16 01:40:41 
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"Osric" <osr  2008-05-17 00:25:58 
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Keon <keon14@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 23:51:55 
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parris_k@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-14 02:23:29 
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docremington <docremin  2008-05-15 09:58:58 
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"Osric" <osr  2008-05-17 00:26:01 
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Keon <keon14@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 23:41:55 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 10:03:42 
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sbm2006@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 12:15:35 
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docremington <docremin  2008-05-17 01:18:27 
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