On Tue, 13 May 2008 03:02:45 -0700 (PDT), xxarag@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>On 13 May, 05:28, Aviroce <dudaras...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Israel is an entity recognized by part of the world community.
>> Israel has not been given a quit claim deed nor a permanent executable
>> cease-fire or a truce that had been signed. Israel is in a state of
>> war for the last sixty years and continues to be so. Palestinians are
>> winning. They came from being Non-Existent to Being People Deserving
>> of Their Country worldwide including recognition by the United States
>> of America, the only dependable sup****ter of Israel.
>>
>> Thus there is no such thing as a Jewish land. Jewish land is a piece
>> of fiction good for Hollywood.
>>
>> Jewish propaganda is the only means to thrive on by Jews and
>> Zionists. Such propaganda is based upon God is Jewish, Holocaust II
>> is True. Such propaganda is highly articulated, managed, strategized
>> to obtain the sup****t of the mightiest country on earth, the United
>> States of America.
>>
>> Now the mightiest country on earth, the United States of America, is
>> advocating and implementing A VIABLE, CONNECTED, PALESTINIAN STATE ON
>> THE WEST BANK, GAZA STRIP AND EAST JERUSALEM. Such a Palestinian
>> state cannot be "Swiss Cheese" the United States of America declares.
>>
>> JGarbuz, I fought for the issue and now I can die feeling that I am
>> achieving my dream. Palestine is coming back. Jews open the roads.
>> The Palestinians are coming in fact. Using Einstein's statement about
>> Israel, "PALESTINE IS IRREVERSIBLE."
>>
>> On May 12, 2:00 pm, jgarbuz <jgar...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 12, 1:28 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> > > On May 12, 6:47 am, YhauWa <lechina3...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> > > By Ben White
>> > > São Paulo, Brazil
>> > > As Israel celebrates 60 years of statehood this month, Palestinians
>> > > are taking the op****tunity to remember the catastrophic shattering
of
>> > > their society in 1948. It is not simply a question of recalling the
>> > > past; they continue to struggle for self-determination and to have
>> > > their rights recognized under international law.<
>>
>> > What right do they have to self-determination? Do they have more
right
>> > than the Kurds, or Assyrians, or Baluchis, and many others suppressed
>> > by Arab domination? The Palestinians were offered a state many times
>> > since 1937, and have chosen instead to block the self-determination
of
>> > the Jewish nation which was recognized by the League of Nations. No
>> > Palestinian nation existed in 1920. They have no more rights than
Jews
>> > had in Poland or Yemen. If they want rights, they have to ask Israel
>> > to grant them rights through a process of negotiations.
>>
>> > > Yet it is a mistake to consider the past 60 years as simply a story
>> > > of
>> > > unmitigated disaster for the Palestinian people. There have also
been
>> > > significant successes and achievements – and it is a story worth
>> > > telling. This is all the more remarkable, given the extent to which
>> > > the society was devastated in 1948: Israel destroyed some 400
>> > > villages as 85 percent of Palestinians in what became Israel were
>> > > dispossessed.<
>>
>> > It probably should have been 100% just like the dispossession of the
>> > Jews of Arabia under Muhammad. THe Arabs chose not to accept next to
>> > Israel, and chose war, so they lost fair and square in a war they
>> > started. What about the one million Jews dispossessed in the Arab
>> > counties? What makes Palestinians so special that only they have the
>> > right to cry about being dispossessed?
>>
>> > > In spite of everything, Palestinians have not only survived but won
>> > > international recognition for Palestinian statehood thanks to
>> > > unflagging persistence. Often bereft of allies, they have struggled
>> > > to
>> > > make substantive political gains. But Palestinians inside Israel,
the
>> > > Occupied Territories, and the dias****a have resisted Israeli
>> > > domination – and refused to just "go away."<
>>
>> > They can stay, if they are loyal to the State of ISrael, or go away
>> > just like many Russian Jews went away. But if they stay and cause
>> > trouble, they are going to get ****ed even worse. Israel is Jewish
>> > land and nothing is going to changet that fact.
>>
>> > > This Palestinian resolution is embodied in the Nassars, a Christian
>> > > family I have come to know over the years. Owners of a beautiful
>> > > piece
>> > > of land overlooking Nahalin village to the west of Bethlehem, they
>> > > have seen illegal settlements spring up on the hillsides around
them
>> > > and thus far survived attempts by the occupying Israeli military to
>> > > confiscate their property.
>> > > Whether blocking the path of trespassing settlers, pursuing their
>> > > case in the courts, or connecting with sup****ters around the world,
the
>> > > Nassars have mobilized the resources of their family and community.
>> > > Most inspiringly, they have developed their land to host children's
>> > > camps, intercultural exchange, and foreign guests, knowing that
they
>> > > have to fight to remain on their own land.
>> > > Theirs is a victory that resonates with the historical Palestinian
>> > > refusal to simply accept their lot and – especially since the 1960s
–
>> > > the parallel determination to organize grass-roots resistance.
>> > > Perhaps
>> > > the most significant achievement was the first intifada, a popular
>> > > uprising in the late 1980s that showed the Israelis that their
>> > > occupation came with a price, as well as displaying to the world
the
>> > > oppressive reality of Israeli policy.<
>>
>> > In fact, due to the first intifada, their life got worse. And will
>> > continue to get worse until they accept that Israel is Jewish land
and
>> > that they are the Arab occupiers of Jewish land.
>>
>> > > A further profound achievement of the past few decades has been the
>> > > flouri****ng of Palestinian civil society. Emphasizing democratic
>> > > participation and education, these refugee camp community centers,
>> > > dance troupes, media organizations, and human rights groups have
>> > > offered vital strength to a besieged society. It was in part due to
>> > > this deeply rooted culture of active citizen****p that the
>> > > Palestinians
>> > > were able to hold elections that in their professionalism and
>> > > transparency were the envy of the Arab world.<
>>
>> > In OTW, they've learned a lot from Israel.
>>
>> > > Building on a vibrant tradition of intellectual life, Palestinian
>> > > scholars and academics have risen to global prominence in recent
>> > > decades, not only as advocates of their people's struggle, but also
>> > > as
>> > > figures of repute in their own disciplines.<
>>
>> > They learned from the Jews, as is usually the case.
>>
>> > > Meanwhile, drawing on their rich cultural and religious heritage,
as
>> > > well as the experience of exile and struggle, Palestinian writers,
>> > > poets, artists, filmmakers, and even hip-hop artists have
contributed
>> > > much, not only to their own people, but to the whole world.
>> > > Historically, one obstacle to peace has been the fact that Israel
>> > > felt
>> > > able to pursue its policies of dispossession and occupation without
>> > > much international attention. This was closely related to the fact
>> > > that the Zionist mythologized version of what had happened in 1948
>> > > went unchallenged in the West – and within Israel – for a long
time.
>> > > Now, however, through such factors as the Israeli "New Historians,"
>> > > the tireless efforts of campaigners, and new media technology that
>> > > enables wide dissemination of "on the ground" information," the
>> > > Palestinians have been able to force cracks in the Israeli
propaganda
>> > > facade.<
>>
>> > Actually, the Zionist side of the story has never been properly told.
>> > Arab propaganda and left wing lies have been allowed to stand and
>> > brush aside the truth. The truth is that the Palestinians are NOT
>> > indigenous, and that they did occupy ancient Jewish soil, and that
>> > thanks from the beginning of Zionist return starting in the 1880s,
the
>> > increase in health services and job op****tunites caused a demographic
>> > explosion of the Arab population in Palestine. The Arab side ignores
>> > the League of Nations resolution that confirmed that the Jewish
>> > National Home is rightfully in Palestine, and did not accept it to be
>> > part of the Greater Arab nation. Arabs in Palestine, just like Jews
>> > in Poland, were just residents entitled to civil and religious
rights,
>> > but no national rights. The US just barely gives national rights to
>> > Indians.
>> > The Palestinians belong in reservations just like the Indians.
There's
>> > been a Palestinian state since 1923 called Jordan. It was created in
>> > eastern Palestine for the Arabs.
>> > And the Arabs don't want a second state next to Israel. They want to
>> > dissolve Israel. It's not going to happen.- Hide quoted text -
>
>
>I ASK YOU AGAIN POST ME NOW ARAB: WHY THE ARABS KILL THE ARABS EACH
>AND EVERYDAY? NO JEW INVOLVED NO ISRAEL INVOLVED, ANSWER!?
WHY THE MRS XXARAB SUCK THE RAG COCK ALL DAY XXARAB? ANSWER ME THIS!
ELI
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