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Re: Could Drabinsky and Gottlieb Escape Justice in Israel?

by kixi <k9i@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 13, 2008 at 07:49 PM

On May 13, 2:59=A0pm, "Jeffrey Krantz" <dr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> .Sanhedrin 57a. A Jew need not to pay a cuthean (gentile) the wages
> owed him for work.
>
> Flat out lie. That is not what it says. In fact a Jew may not go home
for
> Friday if he does not pay his workers in full by the end of the week. So
> this is a false quote
>
> Baba Mezia 24a. If a Jew finds an object lost by a heathen (gentile)
> it does not have to be returned.
>
> Absolutely NOT written. =A0Try the full quote. If a Jew finds an object,
p=
rior
> to the Sabbath he does not have to return it prior to the Sabbath. NOT
THA=
T
> IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE RETURNED
>
> Baba Mezia. Jews are human beings ; the other peoples of the world are
> not human beings, but beasts.
>
> It again is taken out of context. It is about BEHAVIOR.
>
> Sanhedrin 57a. When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death
> penalty. What a Jew steals from a cuthean (gentile) he may keep.
>
> NOT TRUE AND DOES NOT EXIST
>
> Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the the law
> and God has exposed their money to Israel.
>
> Again, no such quote.

1) Killing a GT (as well as any other Gentile, in principle, without a
court hearing, at least in peaceful times) is forbidden. However, a
Jew who murders a gentile (even in peaceful times and even
intentionally) is not punishable by death in the human courts.
According to some opinions he is not punishable at all by the human
courts. But a GT who kills a Jew, purely by accident and
unintentionally, must be put to death.

2) According to some opinions it is forbidden to desecrate the Shabbat
to save the life of a GT unless there is a danger of animosity.

3) In all situations where one must choose to save either a Jew's or a
GT's life or where only one of these two lives can be saved, the
Jewish life must be chosen. It applies even in a situation where a
criminal who is Jewish threatensing the GT's life - even then it is
forbidden to kill the Jew in order to save the GT's life.

4) According to some opinions, if a Jew charges an exorbitant price or
conceals the low quality of goods from a GT customer he does not owe
the GT any compensation (as he would owe a Jewish customer). In any
case, it is clear that if a GTgentile charges an exorbitant price or
conceals the low quality of goods from a Jewish customer, he owes the
Jew compensation.

5) According to most opinions it is forbidden for a Jew to consume
some food products made by a GT.

6) According to most opinions, in all business transactions a Jew must
be given precedence over a GT, even when this causes minor financial
losses.

7) According to many opinions it is forbidden to lend money to GT
without interest.

8) It is forbidden to delay the payment of the wages of a GT, but the
prohibition is less severe than that of delaying a Jew's wages.

9) A GT may not be appointed to any ruling position over Jews. For
example, he cannot be a judge in a Jewish court of law.

10) A GT is not considered a valid witness in a Jewish court of law.

11) A GT, as opposed to a Jew, may be easily sentenced to death in a
court of law. This may be done by a single judge, based on the
testimony of a single witness or his own admission of guilt, with no
prior warning, even if the witness is a relative [of either the judge
or the victim].

12) According to some opinions, if an animal owned by a Jew damages a
GT's property the Jew is not required to pay any indemnity. But when
an animal owned by a GT damages a Jew's property, the GT is obliged to
pay full compensation.

13) A GT who robs or steals from a Jew (or anyone else) must be
sentenced to death, whereas no Jew who robs or steals from anyone is
ever sentenced to death. A Jew who steals from a GT must pay back only
the sum that he stole, whereas a Jew who steals from a Jew must pay
back at least twice the sum he stole.

14) The death penalty may be imposed on a GT who abducts a Jew, but
not on a Jew who abducts a GT.

15) A GT must not observe the Shabbat, and he also must not establish
for himself a religious festival or a religious day of rest. If he
does he is to be beaten in punishment (and according to one opinion he
is to be executed in punishment). According to one opinion he must not
even establish for himself a secular day of rest or intentionally rest
for a whole day.

16) A GT must not study the Torah. If he does he is to be beaten in
punishment.

17) A Jew is not required to mourn (e.g. sit ****va) for his GT
brother, sister (that is, the offspring of his father from a gentile
woman), son or daughter (that is, his offspring from a gentile
woman).

18) A Jew and a GT mustn't be buried side by side.

19) A Jew is not allowed to eat an animal that was slaughtered by a
GT, even if it was done according to all the other rules of the Jewish
law.
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/shamir013.htm
 




 6 Posts in Topic:
Could Drabinsky and Gottlieb Escape Justice in Israel?
kixi <k9i@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-12 20:35:41 
Re: Could Drabinsky and Gottlieb Escape Justice in Israel?
"Jeffrey Krantz"  2008-05-13 13:15:50 
Re: Could Drabinsky and Gottlieb Escape Justice in Israel?
kixi <k9i@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 06:54:11 
Re: Could Drabinsky and Gottlieb Escape Justice in Israel?
"Jeffrey Krantz"  2008-05-13 21:59:22 
Re: Could Drabinsky and Gottlieb Escape Justice in Israel?
kixi <k9i@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 19:49:42 
Re: Could Drabinsky and Gottlieb Escape Justice in Israel?
"Jeffrey Krantz"  2008-05-14 03:47:11 

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