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May 13, 2:59 pm, "Jeffrey Krantz" <dr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> .Sanhedrin 57a. A Jew need not to pay a cuthean (gentile) the wages
> owed him for work.
>
> Flat out lie. That is not what it says. In fact a Jew may not go home =
for
> Friday if he does not pay his workers in full by the end of the week. =
So
> this is a false quote
>
> Baba Mezia 24a. If a Jew finds an object lost by a heathen (gentile)
> it does not have to be returned.
>
> Absolutely NOT written. Try the full quote. If a Jew finds an object, =
prior
> to the Sabbath he does not have to return it prior to the Sabbath. NOT =
THAT
> IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE RETURNED
>
> Baba Mezia. Jews are human beings ; the other peoples of the world are
> not human beings, but beasts.
>
> It again is taken out of context. It is about BEHAVIOR.
>
> Sanhedrin 57a. When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death
> penalty. What a Jew steals from a cuthean (gentile) he may keep.
>
> NOT TRUE AND DOES NOT EXIST
>
> Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the the law
> and God has exposed their money to Israel.
>
> Again, no such quote.
1) Killing a GT (as well as any other Gentile, in principle, without a
court hearing, at least in peaceful times) is forbidden. However, a
Jew who murders a gentile (even in peaceful times and even
intentionally) is not punishable by death in the human courts.
According to some opinions he is not punishable at all by the human
courts. But a GT who kills a Jew, purely by accident and
unintentionally, must be put to death. absolutely not true, and taken =
out of context
2) According to some opinions it is forbidden to desecrate the Shabbat
to save the life of a GT unless there is a danger of =
animosity.accurately written. so??
3) In all situations where one must choose to save either a Jew's or a
GT's life or where only one of these two lives can be saved, the
Jewish life must be chosen. It applies even in a situation where a
criminal who is Jewish threatensing the GT's life - even then it is
forbidden to kill the Jew in order to save the GT's life.
accurate
4) According to some opinions, if a Jew charges an exorbitant price or
conceals the low quality of goods from a GT customer he does not owe
the GT any compensation (as he would owe a Jewish customer). In any
case, it is clear that if a GTgentile charges an exorbitant price or
conceals the low quality of goods from a Jewish customer, he owes the
Jew compensation.absolutely untrue. Fraud is never Rabbinically allowed.
5) According to most opinions it is forbidden for a Jew to consume
some food products made by a GT. absolutely true. so???
6) According to most opinions, in all business transactions a Jew must
be given precedence over a GT, even when this causes minor financial
losses.again, out of context. It is written that if you can do business =
with
a jew at a higher cost in order to provide a living for that Jew, it is =
a Mitzvah to do so.
7) According to many opinions it is forbidden to lend money to GT
without interest.
absolute myth
8) It is forbidden to delay the payment of the wages of a GT, but the
prohibition is less severe than that of delaying a Jew's wages.
absolute myth
9) A GT may not be appointed to any ruling position over Jews. For
example, he cannot be a judge in a Jewish court of law.
accurate
10) A GT is not considered a valid witness in a Jewish court of law.
absolutely LIE
11) A GT, as opposed to a Jew, may be easily sentenced to death in a
court of law. This may be done by a single judge, based on the
testimony of a single witness or his own admission of guilt, with no
prior warning, even if the witness is a relative [of either the judge
or the victim].
absolute lie. Jewish courts have NO jurisdiction over a non-jew
12) According to some opinions, if an animal owned by a Jew damages a
GT's property the Jew is not required to pay any indemnity. But when
an animal owned by a GT damages a Jew's property, the GT is obliged to
pay full compensation.
absolute lie for the same reason.
13) A GT who robs or steals from a Jew (or anyone else) must be
sentenced to death, whereas no Jew who robs or steals from anyone is
ever sentenced to death. A Jew who steals from a GT must pay back only
the sum that he stole, whereas a Jew who steals from a Jew must pay
back at least twice the sum he stole.
absolute lie for the same reason
14) The death penalty may be imposed on a GT who abducts a Jew, but
not on a Jew who abducts a GT.
absolute lie
15) A GT must not observe the Shabbat, and he also must not establish
for himself a religious festival or a religious day of rest. If he
does he is to be beaten in punishment (and according to one opinion he
is to be executed in punishment). According to one opinion he must not
even establish for himself a secular day of rest or intentionally rest
for a whole day.
absolute lie. for the same reason
16) A GT must not study the Torah. If he does he is to be beaten in
punishment.
absolute lie
17) A Jew is not required to mourn (e.g. sit ****va) for his GT
brother, sister (that is, the offspring of his father from a gentile
woman), son or daughter (that is, his offspring from a gentile
woman).
true. NOT REQUIRED but allowed
18) A Jew and a GT mustn't be buried side by side.
gentiles are not buried in jewish cemetary.
19) A Jew is not allowed to eat an animal that was slaughtered by a
GT, even if it was done according to all the other rules of the Jewish
law. true.
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/shamir013.htm
the above is not what ANYONE would consider an accurate jewish text.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On May 13, 2:59 pm, "Jeffrey Krantz" =
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wrote:<BR>>=20
..Sanhedrin 57a. A Jew need not to pay a cuthean (gentile) the =
wages<BR>> owed=20
him for work.<BR>><BR>> Flat out lie. That is not what it says. In =
fact a=20
Jew may not go home for<BR>> Friday if he does not pay his workers in =
full by=20
the end of the week. So<BR>> this is a false quote<BR>><BR>> =
Baba Mezia=20
24a. If a Jew finds an object lost by a heathen (gentile)<BR>> it =
does not=20
have to be returned.<BR>><BR>> Absolutely NOT written. Try the =
full quote.=20
If a Jew finds an object, prior<BR>> to the Sabbath he does not have =
to=20
return it prior to the Sabbath. NOT THAT<BR>> IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE=20
RETURNED<BR>><BR>> Baba Mezia. Jews are human beings ; the other =
peoples=20
of the world are<BR>> not human beings, but beasts.<BR>><BR>> =
It again=20
is taken out of context. It is about BEHAVIOR.<BR>><BR>> Sanhedrin =
57a.=20
When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death<BR>> penalty. =
What a Jew=20
steals from a cuthean (gentile) he may keep.<BR>><BR>> NOT TRUE =
AND DOES=20
NOT EXIST<BR>><BR>> Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the=20
protection of the the law<BR>> and God has exposed their money to=20
Israel.<BR>><BR>> Again, no such quote.<BR><BR>1) Killing a GT (as =
well as=20
any other Gentile, in principle, without a<BR>court hearing, at least in =
peaceful times) is forbidden. However, a<BR>Jew who murders a gentile =
(even in=20
peaceful times and even<BR>intentionally) is not punishable by death in =
the=20
human courts.<BR>According to some opinions he is not punishable at all =
by the=20
human<BR>courts. But a GT who kills a Jew, purely by accident=20
and<BR>unintentionally, must be put to death. <STRONG>absolutely =
not true,=20
and taken out of context</STRONG><BR><BR>2) According to some opinions =
it is=20
forbidden to desecrate the Shabbat<BR>to save the life of a GT unless =
there is a=20
danger of animosity.<STRONG>accurately written. so??</STRONG><BR><BR>3) =
In all=20
situations where one must choose to save either a Jew's or a<BR>GT's =
life or=20
where only one of these two lives can be saved, the<BR>Jewish life must =
be=20
chosen. It applies even in a situation where a<BR>criminal who is Jewish =
threatensing the GT's life - even then it is<BR>forbidden to kill the =
Jew in=20
order to save the GT's life.<BR><STRONG>accurate</STRONG><BR>4) =
According to=20
some opinions, if a Jew charges an exorbitant price or<BR>conceals the =
low=20
quality of goods from a GT customer he does not owe<BR>the GT any =
compensation=20
(as he would owe a Jewish customer). In any<BR>case, it is clear that if =
a=20
GTgentile charges an exorbitant price or<BR>conceals the low quality of =
goods=20
from a Jewish customer, he owes the<BR>Jew =
compensation.<STRONG>absolutely=20
untrue. Fraud is never Rabbinically allowed.</STRONG><BR><BR>5) =
According to=20
most opinions it is forbidden for a Jew to consume<BR>some food products =
made by=20
a GT. <STRONG>absolutely true. so???</STRONG><BR><BR>6) According to =
most=20
opinions, in all business transactions a Jew must<BR>be given precedence =
over a=20
GT, even when this causes minor financial<BR>losses.<STRONG>again, out =
of=20
context. It is written that if you can do business =
with</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>a jew at a higher cost in order =
to provide=20
a living for that Jew, it is a Mitzvah to do =
so.</STRONG></FONT></DIV><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG>
<DIV><BR><BR>7) According to many opinions it is forbidden to lend money =
to=20
GT<BR>without interest.<BR><STRONG>absolute myth</STRONG><BR>8) It is =
forbidden=20
to delay the payment of the wages of a GT, but the<BR>prohibition is =
less severe=20
than that of delaying a Jew's wages.</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>absolute myth</STRONG><BR><BR>9) A GT may not be appointed =
to any=20
ruling position over Jews. For<BR>example, he cannot be a judge in a =
Jewish=20
court of law.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>accurate</STRONG><BR><BR>10) A GT is not considered a valid =
witness=20
in a Jewish court of law.</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>absolutely LIE</STRONG><BR><BR>11) A GT, as opposed to a =
Jew, may=20
be easily sentenced to death in a<BR>court of law. This may be done by a =
single=20
judge, based on the<BR>testimony of a single witness or his own =
admission of=20
guilt, with no<BR>prior warning, even if the witness is a relative [of =
either=20
the judge<BR>or the victim].<BR><STRONG>absolute lie. Jewish courts have =
NO=20
jurisdiction over a non-jew</STRONG><BR>12) According to some opinions, =
if an=20
animal owned by a Jew damages a<BR>GT's property the Jew is not required =
to pay=20
any indemnity. But when<BR>an animal owned by a GT damages a Jew's =
property, the=20
GT is obliged to<BR>pay full compensation.<BR><STRONG>absolute lie for =
the same=20
reason.</STRONG><BR>13) A GT who robs or steals from a Jew (or anyone =
else) must=20
be<BR>sentenced to death, whereas no Jew who robs or steals from anyone=20
is<BR>ever sentenced to death. A Jew who steals from a GT must pay back=20
only<BR>the sum that he stole, whereas a Jew who steals from a Jew must=20
pay<BR>back at least twice the sum he stole.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>absolute lie for the same reason</STRONG><BR><BR>14) The =
death=20
penalty may be imposed on a GT who abducts a Jew, but<BR>not on a Jew =
who=20
abducts a GT.</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>absolute lie</STRONG><BR><BR>15) A GT must not observe the =
Shabbat,=20
and he also must not establish<BR>for himself a religious festival or a=20
religious day of rest. If he<BR>does he is to be beaten in punishment =
(and=20
according to one opinion he<BR>is to be executed in punishment). =
According to=20
one opinion he must not<BR>even establish for himself a secular day of =
rest or=20
intentionally rest<BR>for a whole day.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>absolute lie. for the same reason</STRONG><BR><BR>16) A GT =
must not=20
study the Torah. If he does he is to be beaten in<BR>punishment.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>absolute lie</STRONG><BR><BR>17) A Jew is not required to =
mourn=20
(e.g. sit ****va) for his GT<BR>brother, sister (that is, the offspring =
of his=20
father from a gentile<BR>woman), son or daughter (that is, his offspring =
from a=20
gentile<BR>woman).</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>true. NOT REQUIRED but allowed</STRONG><BR><BR>18) A Jew =
and a GT=20
mustn't be buried side by side.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>gentiles are not buried in jewish =
cemetary.</STRONG><BR><BR>19) A=20
Jew is not allowed to eat an animal that was slaughtered by a<BR>GT, =
even if it=20
was done according to all the other rules of the Jewish<BR>law.=20
<STRONG>true.</STRONG><BR></FONT><A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>the above is not what ANYONE =
would consider=20
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