On Wed, 14 May 2008 04:23:38 GMT, flaviaR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>Once, just ONCE, I'd like to see a "pro-Islam" group that didn't
>turn out to be terrorist sup****ters.
You 'think' Islam = terrorism, convert.
>OTOH, I think I'll just say "Arabs for Israel" counts as such,
>& leave it at that.
>
>Susan
You really are a thick Irish ****, aren't you?
Eli
>
>On 13-May-2008, DoD <danskisanjar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> “We don't live for this world, as many of the Ikhwan [Brotherhood]
>> seem to believe unfortunately. We live for the afterlife. This dunya
>> [world] is for Joe Kaufman and Alan Dershowitz and George Bush. Let
>> them have it because they'll have no share in the next
>> life.”
>>
>> - Radical Islamist and CAIR Staffer, Omer Subhani
>>
>> On March 1, 2008, CAIR-Florida representative Jawhar “Joe” Badran,
>> with CAIR-Florida Executive Director Altaf Ali by his side, proclaimed
>> on camera that “Hamas is not a terrorist organization.” Statements
>> such as these from CAIR officials come sparse, as the group’s sup****t
>> for its murderous Palestinian patriarch is usually hidden. However,
>> it turns out that one of Badran’s CAIR-Florida colleagues, Omer
>> Subhani, said the same months before. And he continues to do so.
>>
>> Omer Subhani is a 25-year-old Pakistani-American, who currently holds
>> the position of Communications Director for the South Florida office
>> of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Being an officer for
>> CAIR, an organization aligned with terrorist groups overseas – most
>> notably Hamas – Subhani has the burden of attempting to explain (or
>> explain away) CAIR’s sinister connections.
>>
>> But first, he must explain his own.
>>
>> Subhani has been involved in radical Muslim organizations, since at
>> least his teenage years. Last month, he wrote, on his personal blog,
>> “I remember back when I was a freshman in high school, me and my
>> closest friend initiated the first annual MYNA Basketball Tournament
>> at Florida International University in 1996 I believe.” He stated
>> that MYNA or Muslim Youth of North America was created by the Muslim
>> Students Association (MSA) and admits that the MSA’s founders “were
>> former members or nominally inclined to the Muslim Brotherhood and its
>> teachings of activism (and world domination of course).”
>>
>> In addition, Subhani was involved with Islamic Relief (IR), a
>> “charity” that, like CAIR, has been recognized as being a front for
>> Hamas. He was a contact for a fundraiser for the group, which was
>> held at Nova Southeastern University, in December 2004.
>>
>> As a child, Subhani gained knowledge of his relatives’ fondness for
>> suicide bombers. In October 2007, he stated on his blog, “I learned,
>> through my adult relatives’ conversations mostly, that Pakistan was a
>> great regional military power that had fought and defeated India
>> multiple times in warfare. Pakistani soldiers, I was told, were Muslim
>> heroes who strapped grenades to themselves in the face of Indian tanks
>> and laid down in front of the tanks in order to take out the more
>> powerful Indian military. They sacrificed their lives for Pakistani
>> freedom.”
>>
>> Last November, Subhani, concerned over the leader****p situation in
>> Pakistan, predicted the death of former Pakistani Prime Minister
>> Benazir Bhutto. Following a duel suicide bombing that took place in
>> Karachi, he wrote, “Bhutto escaped an assassination attempt on her
>> life the first time she came back to Pakistan. She would likely not be
>> as successful as Musharraf in avoiding assassination attempts on a
>> regular basis.” And after the successful suicide attack that took her
>> life in December, Subhani mercilessly ripped her apart, saying, “I am
>> disgusted with the U.S. media. Their coverage of Bhutto as some sort
>> of martyr is despicable and inappropriate... She was a crook, plain
>> and simple.”
>>
>> Indeed, Subhani has a strong connection to his native Pakistan. This
>> is evidenced by the fact that he refers to it as the “mother land.”
>> He is quick to point out, though, that he is “an American and a
>> Pakistani second, if at all.” He has also said that he has “zero
>> allegiance to any other country besides America.” Yet, in November of
>> 2007, he wrote, “I recently saw Michael Moore’s latest movie, Sicko.
>> It was very informative and also very depressing. I am seriously
>> considering at some point in my life moving to either Canada or
>> Europe... All of that makes me want to jump on a boat to Cuba; it’s
>> only 90 some miles away from my home. Viva Fidel.”
>>
>> In truth, Subhani has a sincere hatred towards the United States.
>> Last month, he even wrote, “As an American we all have the right to
>> like our country or even to hate it.”
>>
>> But Subhani goes much further than to just have a simple disdain for
>> America. In November, he wrote, “By our own definitions of
>> terrorism... the US is a terrorist state.”
>>
>> Mimicking our enemy overseas, Subhani has called our presence in Iraq
>> an “illegal occupation,” whilst mocking our troops. This month, he
>> wrote, “It takes a massive level of indoctrination and in other cases,
>> arrogance, to figure that another nation is ‘interfering’ in a country
>> that our nation has illegally occupied... President Bush and other
>> American officials, in public castigations of Iran, have said that
>> Iran has been consistently meddlesome in Iraq and that the Iranians
>> have long sought to arm and train Iraqi militias... Oh, but you know,
>> those 150,000 American troops – they’ve been nothing but angels.”
>>
>> Subhani has also compared both us and Israel to al-Qaeda, likening
>> both countries to “cold blooded killers.” In April, he wrote, “The
>> rationale is exactly the same, unsurprisingly. If you were to kill
>> someone you would obviously blame your actions on either ignorance of
>> the cir***stance or situation, or on someone else’s actions. It seems
>> al-Qaeda is just taking the approach that the U.S. and Israel have
>> used for decades... What all of this implies is that cold blooded
>> killers, no matter their ethnicity or religions or upbringings, think
>> the same way.”
>>
>> But while Subhani considers the United States and Israel to be
>> terrorist entities, he refuses to say the same about Hamas and
>> Hezbollah, two groups found on the U.S. State Department’s list of
>> Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs). In November, he stated,
>> “Hamas, Hezbollah, and other national liberation movements use every
>> means at their disposal to fight occupation or oppression. It’s wrong
>> to kill innocent people. It’s wrong to fire rockets indiscriminately
>> at towns and villages. But that does not mean because they commit such
>> actions that Hamas and Hezbollah are completely and utterly devout
>> terrorist organizations, as the mainstream press here in the US likes
>> to label them.”
>>
>> In January, he wrote, “I do not agree with the idea that Hamas is a
>> terrorist organization... Israel is far worse. Hamas has not been
>> brutally occupying Israel for over 40 years.” And in March, he stated,
>> “As far as saying that Hamas is a terrorist organization - that is a
>> statement of opinion for anyone who makes it - even the State
>> Department... [I]s Hamas a terrorist organization? Of course it’s
>> not... Israeli war crimes, do***ented by the most respected human
>> rights groups in the United States and Israel, far surpass anything
>> Hamas or any other Palestinian organization could ever hope to
>> accomplish.”
>>
>> And in April, he admitted about his group that it has a policy of not
>> denouncing either Hamas or Hezbollah. He wrote, “I’ve seen on TV and
>> in print people demanding CAIR to ‘condemn’ groups like Hamas and
>> Hezbollah. CAIR has openly condemned their violent actions, but as an
>> organization it refuses to condemn them as groups.”
>>
>> Subhani’s obsession with Hamas and Israel has led him to believe that
>> hatred of Jews is justified. He calls this “legitimate antisemitism”
>> and provides a laundry list of demands that Israel needs to meet,
>> before anyone can, according to him, “expect antisemitism to dwindle.”
>>
>> All of the above quotes were made starting the month Subhani joined
>> the staff of CAIR, September of 2007. On the top of his blog, which
>> even includes a piece calling for the release of 9/11 mastermind
>> Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a disclaimer is found. It’s there for a
>> reason. It’s to be used as an excuse to say, if an article ever comes
>> out such as this, Subhani’s statements will be his alone.
>>
>> However, Subhani’s outrageous words are a manifestation of CAIR’s true
>> self – that being a group based on the destruction of Israel, sup****t
>> for terrorists, and a general disdain for the West (i.e. the United
>> States).
>>
>> Last April, Subhani wrote, “[I]f any CAIR officials have done any
>> wrong doing then they should be punished.” While his words do not
>> reach the level of any type of prescribed punishment, Subhani
>> certainly has said enough to warrant his being watched as a potential
>> threat. Who could expect any less for an individual that considers
>> and proclaims Hamas to be anything but that which it is, a terrorist
>> organization?
>>
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