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Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "****loh"

by Mirelle <studywarnomore123@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 09:21 AM

On May 14, 7:03 pm, hillelg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On May 14, 5:55 pm, Mirelle <studywarnomore...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > *until ****loh come*;

> The Hebrew source is "ad ki yavo ****lo"

LIke ElParedon said, "You are using the kike bible"!
As if your translations of what the Hebrew words mean can be trusted
-- on top of using the "kike bible"!
You lie about israHELL, nothing you say can be trusted.

Gen 49:1

And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together,
that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

Gen 49:10

The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between
his feet, *until ****loh come*; and unto him shall the gathering of the
people be.

Mirelle


> "ad ki" means "until"
> "yavo" means "will come"
> "****lo" is either the name of the place, or "his" (mispelled "shelo)
> or, if you really wanted to bend backward, gimetria for "moshe"
> (moses).
>
> If we accept your explanation then Jacob's prophecy was wrong.
> Judah lost the kingdom more than a 1,000 years before
> Muhammad showed up.
>
> If we accept the claim, common to quite a few Jews,
> Christians and Muslims, that ****lo is the Messiah
> then the verse makes little sense because of the
> "slight" problem with dates.  One explanation
fromwww.daat.co.il/daat/mahshevt/natsrut/vikuah-2.htm
>
> He explains that in the "ad ki" means "in the end"
> and the verse promises that in the end, when the
> Messiah will come, the king will be from the
> tribe of Judah.  The argument is well founded,
> at least for those who understand Hebrew, but
> I don't like it.  The one I like is Bchor Shor
inwww.jafi.org.il/education/ivrit/gilyonot/ch12vaichi.html
> He based his explanation on Psalm 78:
> "60 He abandoned the tabernacle of ****loh,
>        the tent he had set up among men.
> .........................
> 67 Then he rejected the tents of Joseph,
>        he did not choose the tribe of Ephraim;
>
>  68 but he chose the tribe of Judah,
>        Mount Zion, which he loved."
>
> The point is that the first king from the
> tribe of Judah came to ****loh and took the
> Ark to Jerusalem (see 2 Samuel 6) and so
> Judah became the dominant tribe.
>
> > > I wonder why Christians, and Muslims, spend so
> > > much time trying to "prove" that the Jewish Bible
> > > has anything to do with their religions.  Why can't
> > > they be satisfied with their very own Holy books?
>
> BTW can you explain that?
 




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Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shiloh"
Mirelle <mirellebonte1  2008-05-13 13:33:10 
Islam is not a horror movie. It is a horror reality.
"simple_language@[EM  2008-05-13 13:57:40 
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"ElParedon" <  2008-05-13 20:43:47 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Mirelle <mirellebonte1  2008-05-13 14:10:12 
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"TheZ" <TheZ  2008-05-13 17:56:32 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Mirelle <mirellebonte1  2008-05-13 16:15:35 
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"Justin Case" &  2008-05-15 20:30:40 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Mirelle <mirellebonte1  2008-05-13 16:56:55 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
"Tilly" <fem  2008-05-17 14:20:33 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
"B.H. Cramer" &  2008-05-17 12:23:29 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Mirelle <mirellebonte1  2008-05-13 21:19:57 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Zev <zev_horn@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 03:16:25 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-14 08:07:40 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
xxarag@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 08:19:02 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-14 11:56:57 
Kook Alert!
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-14 19:39:35 
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Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-15 02:21:47 
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Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-15 18:26:54 
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"Tilly" <fem  2008-05-16 17:16:43 
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Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-14 13:01:12 
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Zev <zev_horn@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 14:06:52 
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Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-14 15:27:32 
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Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-14 15:30:39 
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Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-14 17:55:14 
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"Tilly" <fem  2008-05-16 17:20:29 
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hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-14 19:03:21 
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xxarag@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 03:59:13 
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Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-15 08:42:15 
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flaviaR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 19:57:38 
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Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-15 18:47:10 
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Daniel Bernard <fifthh  2008-05-16 11:54:07 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-15 09:21:39 
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"Tilly" <fem  2008-05-16 17:26:22 
Re: Islam is not a horror movie. It is a horror reality.
moslem cartoon character   2008-05-15 09:31:14 
Re: Islam is not a horror movie. It is a horror reality.
=?UTF-8?B?IuKAuSjigKLCv+K  2008-05-17 01:55:32 
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Topaz <mars1933@[EMAIL  2008-05-15 18:40:56 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 09:42:11 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
Zev <zev_horn@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 10:04:52 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-15 12:56:41 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 14:50:07 
Re: Islam is not a horror movie. It is a horror reality.
hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 17:09:52 
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Topaz <mars1933@[EMAIL  2008-05-17 12:52:35 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-15 17:56:48 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-15 21:09:57 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
Mirelle <studywarnomor  2008-05-15 17:58:40 
Just something that I thought needed posting.
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-15 21:14:05 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 18:23:54 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-15 22:21:30 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 18:26:07 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-15 22:19:57 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
"Tilly" <fem  2008-05-16 17:31:33 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
"Tilly" <fem  2008-05-16 17:41:07 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-16 20:16:52 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Muhammad In Genesis: Muhammad Was The "Shi
"B.H. Cramer" &  2008-05-17 11:06:25 
Re: Just something that I thought needed posting.
hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-15 18:29:07 
Re: Just something that I thought needed posting.
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-15 22:18:16 
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"Tilly" <fem  2008-05-16 17:12:18 
Re: Just something that I thought needed posting.
hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-16 03:12:32 
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Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-16 20:34:55 
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"Tilly" <fem  2008-05-17 16:25:35 
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Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-17 10:25:19 
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Topaz <mars1933@[EMAIL  2008-05-17 12:54:38 
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xxarag@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-16 03:15:05 
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Daniel Bernard <fifthh  2008-05-16 11:35:12 
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Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-16 06:55:38 
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Daniel Bernard <fifthh  2008-05-16 13:08:36 
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Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-16 08:25:34 
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Daniel Bernard <fifthh  2008-05-16 14:26:22 
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Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-16 10:08:19 
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Daniel Bernard <fifthh  2008-05-16 16:18:07 
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Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-16 14:49:02 
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Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-16 06:44:59 
Kooko speaks
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-16 20:38:53 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-16 10:25:59 
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flaviaR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 18:06:29 
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Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-16 20:52:20 
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"Justin Case" &  2008-05-16 18:58:32 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-16 20:47:30 
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hillelg123@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-16 11:20:51 
Re: Jacob Prophesying Mohammed In Genesis: Mohammed Was The "Shi
"Justin Case" &  2008-05-16 19:01:27 
Re: Just something that I thought needed posting.
dshravi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 14:51:14 
Re: Just something that I thought needed posting.
Gary Renzetti <lizgary  2008-05-16 21:00:18 
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Topaz <mars1933@[EMAIL  2008-05-17 12:58:44 
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"dsharavi@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-16 16:56:32 
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"dsharavi@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-16 16:57:34 
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"dsharavi@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-16 16:58:49 
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xxarag@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-17 03:20:51 
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Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-17 09:22:56 
Re: Kooko speaks
xxarag@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-17 03:27:06 
Re: Kooko speaks
Eli Grubman <eli.grubm  2008-05-17 09:23:50 
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