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> "Viejo Vizcacha" <nats_uglyman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On May 11, 10:15 am, "Peter Webb"
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>>> "Viejo Vizcacha" <elbie_jovis_ka...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> > Israel is systematically starving and submitting
>>> > Palestinians to a state of siege, making Gaza and the West Bank the
>>> > biggest concentration camps in recent history.
>>>
>>> OK. How is Israel systematically starving Palestinians, or controlling
>>> movements into and out of Palestine for anything except weapons?
"U.S. Withdraws Fulbright Grants to Gaza"
- NY Times 30/5/2008
"GAZA — The American State Department has withdrawn all
Fulbright grants to Palestinian students in Gaza hoping
to pursue advanced degrees at American institutions this
fall because Israel has not granted them permission to
leave."
Imagine being trapped in the Warsaw Ghetto, every
aspect of your life controlled by Nazis, they choke
all economic activity, they prevent free movement,
they make daily life impossible, they even remove hope
and future development by preventing the prisoners
from getting an education!
That is Fascism! It just wears a different uniform!
"Abdulrahman Abdullah received word on Thursday via an
e-mail message in Gaza City that the American State
Department had withdrawn his Fulbright grant to study
in the United States."
A criminal breach of the Universal Declaration of Human
Rights by the Zionazi regime, in which the USSA is openly
complicit.
Where are all the pro-Tibetan, anti-China protesters, happy
to take on a cause which will never cost them anything?
"Israel has isolated this coastal strip, which is run by
the militant group Hamas. Given that policy, the United
States Consulate in Jerusalem said the grant money had
been “redirected” to students elsewhere out of concern
that it would go to waste if the Palestinian students
were forced to remain in Gaza."
Incredible.. the Zionazi apologists do not INSIST
on human rights for the Palestinians, they aid the
Zionazis in their persecution!!!
Lets take Iraq as a model.. why isn't the USSA INVADING
Israel to produce REGIME CHANGE and free the victims of
Zionazi oppression? No oil? pfffft
"A letter was sent by e-mail to the students on Thursday
telling them of the cancellation. Abdulrahman Abdullah, 30,
who had been hoping to study for an M.B.A. at one of
several American universities on his Fulbright, was in
shock when he read it."
The USSA and Israel demand that newly formed Palestinian
authorities prevent all militant action in their territory
(something the might superpower cannot do in Iraq, despite
it's phenomenal wealth and military power!) and then they
do EVERYTHING to prevent the Palestinian society from
EVEN FUNCTIONING! They not only refused to recognise the
democratic government, they undermined it and now clearly
seek to destroy the Palestinians.
"“If we are talking about peace and mutual understanding,
it means investing in people who will later contribute
to Palestinian society,” he said. “I am against Hamas.
Their acts and policies are wrong. Israel talks about
a Palestinian state. But who will build that state
if we can get no training?”
It doesn't matter, you could be a Christian Lebanese,
they will still make you pay COLLECTIVELY for the
actions of any militant irregular.. it's the Nazi way;
When a resistance fighter ambushed a German soldier, the
Nazis would execute the civilian inhabitants of the nearest
villages.. or randomly select and murder a sample, or
execute the mayors.. it's pure TERRORISM!!!
"Some Israeli lawmakers, who held a hearing on the issue
of student movement out of Gaza on Wednesday, expressed
anger that their government was failing to promote educational
and civil development in a future Palestine given the hundreds
of students who had been offered grants by the United States
and other Western governments."
And people outside Israel should be aware, lest they fall
into the same evil ideology of Collective Responsibility
and Punishment as the Zionazis, that NOT ALL Israelis sup****t
the Zionazis, but they are in government!
“This could be interpreted as collective punishment,”
complained Rabbi Michael Melchior, chairman of the Parliament’s
education committee, during the hearing.
Exactly my point and one which has been forcibly put to
Zionazi apologists, including Chris Textor, an open
anti-Muslim bigot and Peter Webb, who denies that this
very blockade exists!! B^p
“This policy is not in keeping with international standards
or with the moral standards of Jews, who have been subjected
to the deprivation of higher education in the past. Even in war,
there are rules.” Rabbi Melchior is from the Meimad Party,
allied with Labor."
How deeply sad that such decency and wisdom is in
the minority.. such people are like the Righteous Gentiles
in WWII. Small in number, great in moral force.
They are the true Israeli patriots, people who want a
future of PEACE based on Social Justice for the Palestinian
victims of Zionazi expansion and Lebensraum.
"The committee asked the government and military to reconsider
the policy and get back to it within two weeks. But even if
the policy is changed, the seven Fulbright grantees in Gaza
are out of luck for this year. Their letters urged them to
reapply next year."
What a disgrace! the entire western world should be ashamed,
we are no better than the Mugabe thugs!
As in Iraq, this vile injustice will only aid the extremist
elements to recruit for terrorism, they will argue "Look,
there is no alternative but armed struggle"
Israelis and Palestinians will DIE because of this brutal
oppression which keeps Palestinians in a tiny rat maze,
their economy destroyed and their hopes for future development
thwarted.
"Israel’s policy appears to be in flux. At the parliamentary
hearing on Wednesday, a Defense Ministry official recalled
that the cabinet had declared Gaza “hostile territory” and
decided that the safety of Israeli soldiers and civilians at
or near the border should be risked only to facilitate the
movement out of Gaza for humanitarian concerns, like medical
treatment. Higher education, he said, was not a humanitarian
concern."
Zeig Heil!
"But when a query about the canceled Fulbrights was made to
the prime minister’s office on Thursday, senior officials
expressed surprise. They said they did, in fact, consider
study abroad to be a humanitarian necessity and that when
cases were appealed to them, they would facilitate them."
"Good Germans protest they didn't know what went on
in the camps"
"The study grants notwithstanding, the Israeli officials
argued that the policy of isolating Gaza was working,
that Palestinians here were starting to lose faith in
Hamas’s ability to rule because of the hard****ps of life."
The deliberate overturning of a democratically elected
government by economic subversion.
Nice of them to admit it.. makes lying apologists
such as Chris Textor and Peter Webb look like stooges.
Reeks of the CIA in South America for decades,
overthrowing governments which made American exploitation
more difficult.
"Since Hamas, a radical Islamist group that opposes Israel’s
existence, carried out what amounted to a coup d’état in
Gaza against the more secular Fatah party a year ago,
hundreds of rockets and mortar shells have been launched
from here at Israeli civilians, truck and car bombs have
gone off and numerous attempts to kidnap Israeli soldiers
have taken place."
Since the USSA invasion of Iraq, Kurdish terrorists
have mounted terrorist bombings in Turkey, to the
point where Turkey has invaded Northern Iraq.
If the might USSA superpower cannot prevent incursions
by terrorists and other irregulars, how can a tiny,
impoverished council do it, lacking all military resources,
in an economy CHOKED by the Zionazi boot on their throat,
where they can't even control students getting an
education!!!!!!!!
That whole bull**** line is ABSURD PROPAGANDA.
Hamas is NOT in control of gaza, in any realistic
sense..The IDF IS, just like the Nazis military
controlled the Warsaw Ghetto.
"While Hamas says the attacks are in response to Israeli
military incursions into Gaza, it also says it will
never recognize Israel."
"Dear residents of the Warsaw Ghetto, we demand
you recognise the Nazi Regime which took your
homes and businesses.. you will be collectively
punished till you comply. Rockthrowing at us
proves it is all YOUR FAULT!"
No one believes that BULL**** RHETORIC ANYMORE!!!
It is the PALESTINIANS who are being PUSHED INTO THE SEA!
“We are using the rockets to shake the conscience of
the world about Israeli aggression,” argued Ahmed Yusef,
political adviser to the Hamas foreign minister in an
interview in his office here. “All our rockets are a
reaction to Israeli aggression.”
It is not a tactic I sup****t, but you can see they
have an argument based on all that has happened to date.
The politics of frustration can become a cycle of
eye-for-an-eye, and as in the Warsaw Ghetto,
only the dominant Military force could decide
to change the dynamic.. the others are impotent,
even if rebellious, victims.
"The Israeli closing of Gaza has added markedly to the
difficulty of daily life here, with long lines for
cooking gas and a sense across the population of being
under siege. Israel does send in about 70 truckloads
per day of wheat, dairy products and medical equipment
as well as some fuel, and it permits some medical cases out.
I am kind if I take my boot off your throat and
allow you to draw a breath. B^p
>> Israel has been murdering anybody helping Palestinians
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie
>>
>> http://www.tomhurndall.co.uk/
>>
>> anybody re****ting the plight of Palestinians
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/devon/4329903.stm
>>
>> and even Palestinians trying to have a family picnic on the beach
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jun/10/israel
>>
>> More Palestinians killed. Cheaper by the dozen.
>> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/283221.html
>>
>> Palestinians killed by Israeli settlers
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/oct/14/israel
>>
>>
>> Israel is a terrorist state. With the help of the US.
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"Iraq War and the price of petrol" - ABC 23/5/2008
"Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said that not invading
Iraq would have helped keep petrol prices down
-- 'It's a factor in the global supply of oil.'"
Of course it is, Iraq has the second largest reserves of oil
in the world. Even if demand were not rising, which it is,
ANY disruption to supply will cause prices to go up.
As we have all seen at the petrol pump.
"There is no question that disruption in any im****tant
country in the oil universe is going to have some
effect on prices, there is absolutely no doubt about that."
- Vijay Vaitheeswaran, Energy correspondent for
the Economist Magazine and author of
"Zoom: The Global Race to Fuel the Car of the Future"
"Iraq oil output hits a new high
- BBC 26/6/2006,
"Production has risen to 2.5 million barrels per day (bpd)
from a steady 2 million bpd during the US-led invasion,
Iraq's new oil minister said.
"Before the war, output was around 3 million bpd,
peaking at a record of 3.5 million bpd"
So, for four years following Howard and Bush's invasion
based on falsehoods about WMDs, Iraqi oil production was
reduced to FIFTY SEVEN PERCENT of it's pre-invasion peak! 8^o
And now it has only inched upward to 71% of it's pre-invasion peak
"Iraq is a mid-level producer, it's not Saudi Arabia,
for example, which is a king pin of oil, or Russia, those
countries produce 9-10 million barrels of oil a day,
the Iraqi output is maybe 20-30% of that, it's more on par
with a country like Venezuela, but undoubtedly a disruption
of the kind which comes from an invasion would of course,
send prices higher"
You can thank Howard and the Lieberals for those higher petrol
prices every time you fill up, and then don't forget the GST
they put ON TOP of the excise, ON TOP of the Iraq War Petrol
Price Surcharge!!!!!
The Great GST Tax SWINDLE
http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/tory_tax_swindle.htm
All courtesy of the most DISASTROUS economic mis-managers
in post war Australian government.. the Lieberal party.
ABC: "So can our Prime Minister get away with saying that
if we didn't go into Iraq, petrol prices would be cheaper?"
"I think that without this kind of Iraq invasion, this
outcome would not have happened."
"In this case, it's not just Iraq, if there were to be hostile
actions by the US against Iran, something President Cheney has
hinted at, you can bet the prices would go even higher.
It's a question of the global supply balance, that's the reason
why an action like this became so problematic"
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