Ted Roberts wrote:
> fasgnadh <fasgnadh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>> "fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:48270786$0$17507$afc38c87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> William Black wrote:
>>>>> "Viejo Vizcacha" <elbie_jovis_kasha@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>> news:efdda$4826eaa2$d15a8c85$15824@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>> That site clearly states:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Air space and territorial waters: Israel continues to maintain
complete
>>>>>> control over the air and sea space of the Gaza Strip. Control of
the air
>>>>>> space provides Israel with the ability to effectively and easily
control
>>>>>> actions on the ground, and to interfere with radio and television
>>>>>> broadcasts. Control of the coastal area and territorial waters
enables
>>>>>> Israel , among other things, to restrict the activity of
Palestinian
>>>>>> fishermen. Israel 's control is also manifested in the need to
obtain
>>>>>> Israeli approval to operate a sea****t and air****t, the lack of
which
>>>>>> impairs freedom of movement to and from the Gaza Strip and impairs
the
>>>>>> Palestinians' conduct of foreign trade."
>>>>> Sounds reasonable to me.
>> >>
>>>> Impairing the Palestinians conduct of foreign trade is not
>>>> only a breach of the Palestinians international Human rights,
>>>> but an act of war.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for acknowledging the Zionazi blockade.
>> >>
>>> Any proof that any ****pping carrying on legitimate trade has been
interfered
>>> with?
>>
>> Yes, the Zionazi blockade is well do***ented, choking
>> the economic life out of the Ghetto, and even preventing
>> the social development and hopes for the future of the young;
>>
>> "Fulbright Scholars Trapped by Gaza Blockade"
>> - JERUSALEM, May 30, 2008
>> "Palestinians Fear Losing Scholar****ps Because of Israeli Blockade"
>>
>> That would be the blockade which Peter Webb has been denying
>> the existence of, for months.
>>
>> "Seven Palestinian scholars may lose their prized Fulbright
>> scholar****ps to attend American universities because Israel
>> won't let them out of the Gaza Strip."
>>
>> Having taken their land, the Zionazis now control the
>> lives of Palestinians in fragmented and walled Ghettos,
>> choking the economic and now even the intellectual lives
>> of their prisoners.
>
> When I was growing up in Canada, the idea was that the fights of the old
> country remained there.
Your parents migrated from Palestine to Canada?
Before you were born, sonny, men went to Europe and the Pacific to
defeat fascism and make it possible for you to whine
in safety when grown-ups discuss it's new forms.
> Now? People rage about the Middle East and Israel as if it was
relevant.
Pull the Duvet up and go back to sleep.
I's not as if people are upset enough about the plight of Palestinians
that they would blow up your trains or anything. B^p
> The Middle East including Israel amounts to 2% of the world's
population.
And produces over 30% of the worlds oil..
but then you have no need of heating, trans****t, chemicals, plastics,
pharmaceuticals, cosmetics.....
Oh.. ...he's fallen asleep again!
> Why is 2% of the world's population such a big deal?
What a stupid and morally bankrupt question!
Are you another Holocaust denier?
>>
>> "The Palestinians are clearly angry at Israel for its refusal
>> to let them leave, but they are also annoyed at the United
>> States for not being able to influence its Mideast ally Israel
>> to crack open its Gaza blockade just enough to let the seven
>> students and their books out of the area."
>>
>> Bush is a tool, he is incapable of a balanced approach
>> to solving the regions problems, refusing to insist
>> on even the most BASIC JUSTICE for the Palestinians.
>>
>> "I am so disappointed with the U.S.," Abdulrahman Abdullah
>> told ABC News today from the town of Rafah in the Gaza Strip.
>> "They say they want to help us create a Palestinian state by
>> the end of the year, and they can't get me a visa? I can't
>> believe it."
>>
>> Israel has sealed the Gaza Strip because it is controlled
>> by the militant group Hamas, which refuses to recognize
>> Israel's right to exist, and because the area is frequently
>> used to launch missile attacks on Israeli border towns."
>>
>> Military imposition of a blockaded Ghetto because you
>> don't like the results of their democratic choice..
>> sounds like Warsaw.
>>
>> Collective punishment of an entire civilian population
>> because of actions by armed irregulars is a war crime,
>> practiced by the Nazis who would similarly punish
>> whole villagers if a Nazi was attacked nearby.
>>
>> "The border is opened only to allow in essential foods,
>> medicine and oil."
>>
>> Like Warsaw, it's a Ghetto in which the Zionazis control
>> and choke the inhabitants at will.
>>
>>
>> http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=4964329&page=1
>>
>>
>>
>>> <snip of incoherent lunacy about nuclear weapons>
>>
>>
>> You would do better to READ the facts,
>> rather than hide them and run away
>>
>>
>>>>> The Arabs have been caught once too often ****pping in machine-guns
>>>>> and bombs and rockets.
>>>>
>>>> Too bad the Palestinians were unable to stop the Irgun
>>>> terrorists from doing the same 60 years ago. Why are you
>>>> such hypocrites?
>>>>
>>>> Nuclear armed Israel, which im****ts Billions of dollars in
>>>> weapons and laced southern Lebanon with cluster bombs which
>>>> are still killing Lebanese children, is setting itself up
>>>> as the arbiter of arms control in the region!?
>>>>
>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA
>>>>
>>>> You arrogant ****s even TALK like Nazis!
>>>>
>>>> The simple fact is, Israel has invaded and occupied Palestinian
>>>> land for 60 years, it is armed to the teeth and yet claims
>>>> some imagined divine right to prevent those it oppresses from
>>>> even engaging in trade (what little their destroyed economy could
>>>> produce!)
>>>>
>>>> So you have them by the throat, with your Jackboot cru****ng them,
>>>> and your excuse is that, like the Warsaw Ghetto, they occasionally
>>>> indulge in futile resistance.
>>>>
>>>> Golly, what a way to get global sympathy! B^p
>>>>
>>>>> Or do you think these devices have a legitimate police function?
>>>>
>>>> Zionazi nukes.. no they are weapons of terror, If Israel was
>>>> Iraq they would be invaded and destroyed by now.
>>>>
>>>>> Oh yes, and some evidence that Israel is stopping im****ts of food
>>>>> please...
>>>>
>>>> "Israel/Gaza: Israeli Blockade Unlawful Despite Gaza Border Breach"
>>>
>> >
>> > Do try and pay attention.
>> >
>> > We're talking about ****pping here.
>>
>>
>> We are talking about all aspects of the Zionazi blockade.
>>
>> You are snipping all evidence of it and running away;
>>
>>
>>
>>>> (New York, January 26, 2008) – This week’s Gaza-Egypt border
breach
>>>> tem****arily eased the humanitarian impact of Israel’s blockade, but
>>>> Israel as the occupying power remains responsible for the well-being
>>>> of Gaza’s 1.4 million residents, Human Rights Watch said today.
>>>> Gazans remain almost completely dependent on Israel for fuel,
>>>> electricity, medicine, food, and other essential commodities.
>>>>
>>>> " Israel’s rightful self-defense against unlawful rocket attacks
does
>>>> not justify a blockade that denies civilians the food, fuel and
>>>> medicine needed to survive, a policy amounting to collective
>>>> punishment. "
>>>> Joe Stork, acting director of Human Rights Watch’s Middle East
division
>>>>
>>>> Gaza: Israel Blocks 670 Students from Studies Abroad
>>>> Press Release, November 20, 2007
>>>>
>>>> Gaza: Israel’s Fuel and Power Cuts Violate Laws of War
>>>> Press Release, October 29, 2007
>>>>
>>>> Wa****ngton Post "Rights Watchers" debate on Israel's blockade of Gaza
>>>> Blog, January 25, 2008
>>>>
>>>> “Gazans can’t turn on the lights, get tap water, buy enough food,
or
>>>> earn a living without Israel’s consent.”
>>
>>
>> Zionazi's try to BLOCKADE the TRUTH as well as the victims of the
Ghetto!
>>
>>
>>>> Some Israeli officials have suggested that the tem****ary breach in
>>>> the Egypt-Gaza border means that Israel has relinquished all
>>>> responsibility for Gaza. “We need to understand that when Gaza is
>>>> open to the other side, we lose responsibility for it,” said
Israeli
>>>> Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilnai on January 24, 2008. “So we
want
>>>> to disconnect from it.”
>>>>
>>>> Israel withdrew its military forces and settlers from the Gaza Strip
>>>> in 2005, but it still controls Gaza’s airspace, territorial waters,
>>>> and land borders – with the exception this week of the Rafah border
>>>> area with Egypt. Israel is Gaza’s primary supplier of electricity,
>>>> which is essential for water availability and sewage treatment. In
>>>> addition, Israel controls Gaza’s telecommunications network, its
>>>> population registry, and its customs and tax revenues. Israeli
>>>> security forces have frequently re-entered Gaza at will."
>>>>
>>>> Israel has occupied Palestinian land and exercised control
>>>> over it for 60 years, and that is the cause of the decades
>>>> of conflict.
>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>>
>>>> Human Rights Watch on January 24 visited a make****ft market with
>>>> Egyptian and Palestinian traders in the no-man’s land at the
border,
>>>> known as the Philadelphi Corridor. Palestinians bought cigarettes,
>>>> cement, fuel, electrical supplies, generators, car parts, farm
>>>> animals, and other goods in short supply in Gaza due to Israel’s
>>>> drastic restrictions on im****ts dating back to June 2006."
>>>>
>>>> So lets not have any more of your ****ING LIES, you Zionazi tool!
>>>> .....
>>>>
>>>> According to the United Nations, the electricity shortage caused at
>>>> least 40 percent of Gazans being denied access to running water and a
>>>> breakdown in the sewage system. Thirty million liters of raw sewage
>>>> was released into the sea per day, a UN re****t said. Forced to rely
>>>> on generators, Gaza hospitals reduced their services."
>>>>
>>>> The Zionazi jackboot denies people water supplies in a desert.
>>>>
>>>> "The UN World Food Program re****ted shortages of meat, wheat flour
>>>> and frozen food. Between January 14 and 20, the humanitarian and
>>>> commercial foods entering Gaza totaled only 31 percent of basic food
>>>> needs."
>>>>
>>>> It's a Ghetto which makes Warsaw look like a tiny operation.
>>>>
>>>> And like the other Nazis, the Zionazi's Collective Punishment
>>>> is indiscriminate, harming old and young, women and children,
>>>> who are ALL held by those heartless bastards to be responsible
>>>> for the acts of any individual! It is an international War
>>>> Crime to collectively punish civilians.
>>>>
>>>> "Israel’s decision to limit fuel, and potentially electricity, to
>>>> Gaza in retaliation for rocket attacks violates a basic principle of
>>>> international humanitarian law, which prohibits a government with
>>>> effective control over a territory from attacking or withholding
>>>> objects that are essential to the survival of the civilian
>>>> population, Human Rights Watch said. It also violates Israel’s duty
>>>> as the occupying power to safeguard the health and welfare of the
>>>> population under occupation."
>>>>
>>>> On January 27, the Israeli Supreme Court will hear an appeal from
>>>> Israeli and Palestinian human rights groups, asserting that the
>>>> electricity cuts amount to collective punishment in violation of
>>>> international humanitarian law."
>>
>> Fascism never wears the same uniform twice.
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"Iraq War and the price of petrol" - ABC 23/5/2008
"Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said that not invading
Iraq would have helped keep petrol prices down
-- 'It's a factor in the global supply of oil.'"
Of course it is, Iraq has the second largest reserves of oil
in the world. Even if demand were not rising, which it is,
ANY disruption to supply will cause prices to go up.
As we have all seen at the petrol pump.
"There is no question that disruption in any im****tant
country in the oil universe is going to have some
effect on prices, there is absolutely no doubt about that."
- Vijay Vaitheeswaran, Energy correspondent for
the Economist Magazine and author of
"Zoom: The Global Race to Fuel the Car of the Future"
"Iraq oil output hits a new high
- BBC 26/6/2006,
"Production has risen to 2.5 million barrels per day (bpd)
from a steady 2 million bpd during the US-led invasion,
Iraq's new oil minister said.
"Before the war, output was around 3 million bpd,
peaking at a record of 3.5 million bpd"
So, for four years following Howard and Bush's invasion
based on falsehoods about WMDs, Iraqi oil production was
reduced to FIFTY SEVEN PERCENT of it's pre-invasion peak! 8^o
And now it has only inched upward to 71% of it's pre-invasion peak
"Iraq is a mid-level producer, it's not Saudi Arabia,
for example, which is a king pin of oil, or Russia, those
countries produce 9-10 million barrels of oil a day,
the Iraqi output is maybe 20-30% of that, it's more on par
with a country like Venezuela, but undoubtedly a disruption
of the kind which comes from an invasion would of course,
send prices higher"
You can thank Howard and the Lieberals for those higher petrol
prices every time you fill up, and then don't forget the GST
they put ON TOP of the excise, ON TOP of the Iraq War Petrol
Price Surcharge!!!!!
The Great GST Tax SWINDLE
http://www.geocities.com/wmds_r_us/tory_tax_swindle.htm
All courtesy of the most DISASTROUS economic mis-managers
in post war Australian government.. the Lieberal party.
ABC: "So can our Prime Minister get away with saying that
if we didn't go into Iraq, petrol prices would be cheaper?"
"I think that without this kind of Iraq invasion, this
outcome would not have happened."
"In this case, it's not just Iraq, if there were to be hostile
actions by the US against Iran, something President Cheney has
hinted at, you can bet the prices would go even higher.
It's a question of the global supply balance, that's the reason
why an action like this became so problematic"
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