Justin Case wrote:
> "Gary Renzetti" <lizgary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Justin Case wrote:
>>> "Helge" <helgeK@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> "TheZ" <TheZ@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> You mean those echoes offering peace are coming from the Arabs?
>>>> It does not matter where they are coming from. Israel does not want
>>>> peace.
>>> Well, I'll tell you what. If all concerned parties cease attacking
>>> Israel, I'd bet you a dollar to a doughnut that peace would prevail.
Of
>>> course, that would also require those living within Israel abide by
>>> Israeli law.
>> It would also the ziothugs stopping the extra-judicial murders,
releasing
>> all the hostages they hold without charge, closing the so-called
>> "settlements", compensating the Palestinians, ending the land grabs,
and
>> tearing down the Apartheid wall.
>> What's the likelihood of this happening anytime soon, do ya think?
>
> Yes, it would be appropriate for Israeli to release anyone in prison who
has
> not committed a crime nor is a terrorist if the Palestinians would agree
to
> live in peace. As far as extra-judicial murders, I think that decision
sits
> squarely on the Palestinians. The simple answer is to stop killing
> civilians. Israel holds no hostages.
If someone throws you in the slam with no charge, no trial, and no
sentence, you're a hostage. Spare me the kaka about "administrative
detention", it is merely spin.
>
> Closing settlements is a reasonable demand if those settlements are
located
> on land other than Israel (that doesn't include the Goland Heights or
Gaza
> as these areas were forfeited after an unprovocted attack on Israel by
> foreign powers).
1967 was not an "unprovocted"(sic) attack. It was an Isr-eli® first
strike. The Egyptian Air Force didn't 'attack' anyone; it was destroyed
on the ground. And International Law expressly forbids colonizing
territories seized in war.
Compensating Palestinians is a complex question. Of
> course, those Palestinains who fled the country at the onset of the 1948
> should get nothing and consideration needs to be given to those hundreds
of
> thousands of Jews who were forced from their homes in Arab countries
during
> the same time period.
Bull****. THe Jews were kicked out of the Arab states as a direct result
of the zionists terrorizing the Palestinian Arabs.
>
> Tearing down the anti terrorist wall would also be a good thing since
Arabs
> would no longer be a threat to innocent women and children. As far as
the
> "Apartheid Wall" well, I have no idea of what you are referring to.
Yes you do. That obscenity the zionists built on their Eastern
outskirts. If the thing were in fact a security measure, it would have
been constructed on the izzie side of the cease-fire line. It is no such
thing. It is a defacto border marker, and is built entirely on the
Palestinian side of the Green Line. Terror is all the checkpoints and
the Jew-only roads in the West Bank and that zionist s*** in Hebron that
daily brutalizes their Arab nothing while the izzie military satnds by
and grins about it.
>
>>>>> Stop being a foolish moron and grow up.
>>>> Stop being a Jew liar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Tell it like it is." <DanielAlbertDesfosses@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> message
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Jun 30, 11:46 pm, "Justin Case" <Thinh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> The crucifixion of Christ was prophesized and had to occur for the
>>>>>> salvation
>>>>>> of mankind. It's irrelevant to blame someone and has absolutely no
>>>>>> bearing
>>>>>> on the course of human events..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "zalek" <zalekbl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Anyone who read the Bible was shocked by the following phrases from
>>>>>> the Bible describing Jesus’s trial:
>>>>>> Matthew 27:24 :
>>>>>> “When Pilate saw that he could do nothing, but that instead a riot
>>>>>> was starting, he took some water, washed his hands before the crowd
>>>>>> and said, “I am innocent of this man’s blood. You take care of it
>>>>>> yourselves!” In reply all the people said, “Let his blood be on us
and
>>>>>> on our children!”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes – it was a Roman judge who sentenced Jesus Christ, and Roman
>>>>>> soldiers crucified Him, but who were the people that said: “Let his
>>>>>> blood be on us and on our children!” ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I just finished reading a book written in Hebrew by Israeli
historian
>>>>> Shlomo Sand “When and how the Jewish people were invented”. In this
>>>>>> well do***ented scholarly book, Shlomo Sand proves that the
majority
>>>>>> of today’s Jews are descendents of various ethnics groups who
>>>>>> converted to Judaism – from the Chazars (people of Turkish origin),
>>>>>> the Berbers tribes (the indigenous people of North Africa), the
Himyar
>>>>>> tribes (people from southern part of Arabian Peninsula) to Greeks,
>>>>>> Romans and Slavs.
>>>>>> So who are the true descendants of people of Israel from Jesus’s
time?
>>>>>> Here is the big surprise – the true descendants of the people who
said
>>>>>> “Let his blood be on us and on our children!” are today’s
>>>>>> PALESTINIANS. They are descendants of biblical Jews and who
converted
>>>>>> to Islam in about 700 AD during the Muslim occupation of Palestine!
>>>>> The true “Jesus killers” were forefathers of PALESTINIANS! So if you
>>>>> want to see people whose ancestors said “Let his blood be on us and
on
>>>>> our children”, go to Gaza or to the Western Bank!
>>>>>
>>>>> Zalek
>>>>> I doubt Shlomo Sand came to such a conclusion. It
>>>>> seems unlikely the ancient Religious Jews at the time of Christ
would
>>>>> become pagans and then "convert " to Mohammedism as YOU suggest.
>>>>> Mohamet respected "believers". That is, people who had religious
>>>>> faith. He hated lawless men, criminals and brigands. That is what
his
>>>>> book the Koran says. He didn't convert religious people to Islam. He
>>>>> converted only the children of Abraham who were practicing paganism:
>>>>> The offspring of Jacob's brother Esau. The native population of the
>>>>> Middle East. Whom people like YOU have driven to madness in modern
>>>>> times with you're bull**** of ethnic-cleansing the region then
>>>>> refusing to compensate them for what you robbed them of. Their
ancient
>>>>> heritage in the Middle East. The jewish "holocaust" brought on by
the
>>>>> Russian holocaust doesn't justify ****ing an innocent and ancient
>>>>> people. Since you people "returned " to the Holy Land no one in that
>>>>> region is innocent.
>>>>> The forced removal demands compensation. Or there will never be
peace
>>>>> in the Holy Land. Human nature being what it is, history unfolds as
it
>>>>> should. But there are demands of justice which cannot be ignored
>>>>> forever.
>>>>> It's all part of the game plan written for the
>>>>> Israeli Prime Minister in 1996. Stephen Hadley can tell you more
about
>>>>> it. "Securing the Realm" for Israel.Believing true Americans aren't
>>>>> going to figure it out. Or dare put an end to senseless war in the
>>>>> ancient and theocratic Middle East.
>>>>> I've yet to hear of one jew who wants peace in the Middle East.
>>>>>
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