On Jul 13, 6:23=A0pm, Gary Renzetti <lizg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Shlomo wrote:
> > So what is your ancestry? =A0You sure sound like an Arab Liar Who
> > Believes His Own Lies, so I was wondering why the Italian name.
Answer please Gary.
> > All of us Jews have a common ancestry. =A0Clearly there was mixing
with
> > the local population during the Exile.
>
> All *humans* have a common ancestry the last time I checked.
Above does not address the assertion; therefore, it's now presumed you
agree with mine that we Jews are descended from the Jewish population
of Palestine (as it was later named) who lived there during the time
of the Second Commonwealth. Thank you.
> > Are you saying there was no native population north of the 49th
> > parallel prior to the arrival of the French, English, and Russians?
> > How did all that land come under the rule of those of European
> > ancestry?
>
> Except for the Russians in the far Northwest, of who's history I profess
> total ignorance, mostly through commercial activity.
> Fur and lumber trading with the Native peoples by the Voyageurs, the
> Hudson's Bay Company and the Northwest Company. NOT by conquest. I'll
> spare the group the capitals you seem to be so enamored of, but by
> treaties (often later violated, it's true!) and by legal purchase of
land=
..
Well, unlike the Europeans who became Americans and Canadians, the
Jews did not steal land from people who had been living there, nor did
they displace them. So my assertion that Israel was founded by an
indigenous population who LEGALLY RETURNED to our ANCESTRAL HOMELAND
remains unrefuted; again, thank you, Gary.
> > Let's see-
>
> > 1. =A0 Collective Punishments really mean those people who live in an
> > area which is being used to wage war against another. =A0What happens
i=
s
> > a consequence of war (like the British blockade of American ****ts in
> > 1776 and 1812, the British and French blockades of each other from the
> > late 1700's to 1815, the Allied blockade of Germany from 1914-1919,
> > etc).
>
> So when a crazy Arab izzie citizen goes nuts with a dozer because his
> Jewish lady leaves him and kills some folks in a murderous a bunch of
> yahoos in the Knesset want to bulldoze his house and de****t his family?
> Yeah, right!
> Did anyone propose bulldozing Baruch Goldstein's house and de****ting
> *his* family?
But unlike the Arab animals, the vast majority of Jews condemned
Bernie Goldstein's action. Besides, your one example doesn't address
the total picture.
> > 2. =A0Illegal de****tations- just a consequence of waging war
>
> The operative word being "illegal". "The guilty guy's dead, but it
provid=
es
> another excuse to de****t some more Arabs". That's not "war", it's
thugger=
y.
Why are the Arabs waging war to being with? They've been offered
their own nation; now build it!
> > 3. =A0Right of Return- =A0an oxymoron. =A0Israel has the right to
contr=
ol
> > immigration across and citizen****p within its borders. =A0The Arab
> > flight was a consequence of a war their side chose to wage; there is
> > no second change.
>
> A total lie, not even a distortion. =A0 =A0
> Not "their side". Some foreign states. The Palestinian Arabs who fled
> were not "waging war" against anyone, they just wanted to save their
> lives and the lives of their families.
And their action was anywhere from sympathy to sup****t of the
invaders. That's TREASON Gary.
Furthermore, none of this would've happened had the Arabs implemented
their phase of Res 181. They went for double or nothing, and got
nothing.
If the Arabs hadn't ratcheted up a War of Genocide, there's 250,000
Arabs in Israel, big deal. As you see, they would've had citizen****p
and religious freedom, which is more than any Jew gets in an Arab
country!
Accept it Gary. What happened to the Arabs is a result of their
failed attempt at a War of Genocide against the Jews.
> > 4. =A0Other stuff- =A0Hebron 1929, Jaffa 1948, Etzion Bloc 1948,
Jerusa=
lem
> > 1948, Middle East and North Africa 1948-1960. =A0The War of Genocide
> > against the Yishuv (you can look it up)
>
> Yeah, but I won't. Life is too short to waste learning gibberish.
> from c. 1883-present.
> I've told you time and again, there was *NO* "War of Genocide=AE"
against
> the zionists. If there had been such, especially as far back as 1883,
> the zionists would have been destroyed.
> =A0 Yup.
Since the time of the First Aliyah, the Arabs have been trying to
drive the Jews out, although the Jewish presence was as LEGAL as the
Puerto Rican presence on the Lower East Side and the Black presence in
East New York, Brownsville, and Crown Heights.
> > the Arabs are the experts in expulsions, de****tations, and land
theft.-
This point stands unrefuted.
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