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>> "Gary Renzetti" <lizgary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Zev wrote:
>>>> "Gary Renzetti" <lizgary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> And once again, look at all the sources for what's posted above (see
>>> below). I have subscribed to the Globe and Mail for over thirty years
>>> and
>>> can assure anyone that Marcus Gee is slightly to the right of Attila
the
>>> Hun in his political opinions. Would you care to tell the readers of
>>> this
>>> n/g why no re****ters were allowed into Jenin for two weeks after the
>>> zionist incursion?
>>
>> No civilians were allowed in.
>> It was too dangerous.
> Too dangerour for who? The zionist mop-up squad?
>> The article says why.
> The article is self-serving propaganda written entirely by the
> perpetrators of the crime.
>>
>>> Yes, the body count was probably exaggerated. It was also probably
>>> exaggerated at Dir Yassin and also with the much ballyhooed "six
>>> million"
>>> number.
>>
>> You multiply the truth by 10, it turns into a lie.
>> Let's call a spade a spade, OK?
>> Same for the "six million".
> My point being that if people get massacred, they are very likely to
> exaggerate the number of victims. I daresay that this happened in all
> three cases I mentioned.
I would accept that for claims of 70-80 killed.
Not for a claim of 500.
You describe Palestinian lies as mere exaggeration,
while dismissing factual re****ts about what
happened there as "self-serving propaganda",
without any facts to back you up.
You don't appear to be personally involved in the conflict,
why is it so hard for you to be more impartial?
There was no massacre, the whole world knows it,
yet you still say "if people get massacred.....".
Why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenin,_Jenin
Israeli investigations found no evidence to substantiate charges of a
massacre; Israeli findings were largely substantiated afterwards by
human
rights observers from such organizations as Human Rights Watch.
Final estimates concluded that between 53-56 Palestinians were killed
during the Israeli offensive, just over half of them suspected
to be armed combatants.
http://www.pierrerehov.com/links/misrepresentations.pdf
In his film "Jenin, Jenin" Mohamed Bakri, an Israeli Arab, grossly
misrepresented what had happened in Jenin during Operation
"Defensive ****eld" led by the Israeli Defense Forces in the wake of
murderous suicide bombings aimed at civilians in Israel.
Bakri pretended to "prove" in his "do***entary" that Israel and the
Jews committed crimes against humanity and a massacre in Jenin.
Pierre Rehov immediately decided to lead an in-depth inquiry in what
actually did happen in Jenin. He went to the refugee camp and, among
other witnesses interviewed some of the people who "testified" in
Bakri's film. Among them the old man Bakri claims below he believed
had been shot in the foot. Pierre Rehov gets the old man to pretend he
was shot in the foot and then ran away for his life ! Pierre Rehov
then
shows the X Rays taken by the Israeli Hospital that took care of that
man and who has, in fact, a heart condition.
Pierre Rehov also interviewed the director of the Jenin Hospital who
claims in Bakri's film that a wing of the hospital was destroyed by
Israeli rockets. Pierre Rehov then asks him to show him the damage.
That "witness" shows a minute dent in a wall...
Among other data that proves Bakri's film to be a lie.
Moreover, in an affidavit, in which Bakri had to answer questions,
sent
to his lawyer, by Amir Tytunovich, attorney for the reservists who
served in Jenin during Operation "Defensive ****eld," and have taken
Bakri to court for his misrepresentations in "Jenin, Jenin" he proves
to
have been gullible beyond belief, to have used "artistic choice" - in
fact
deliberately led wiewers to think an Israeli tank ran over and killed
Palestinian prisoners in clod blood-, not to have realized he was
actually accusinf the IDF and Israli soldiers of crimes. And he admits
to
have been financed in part by a Palestinian minister known for his
anti-Israeli stands and belonging to the Arafat corrupt administration
that incited against Israel.
In the affidavit Mohamed Bakri declared (inter alia) that:
Question: Did you check, in any way, if the claims of the old man
(who claimed that he was shot in the foot and in the hand by a
soldier.
This is the one which Pierre Rehov proved in his movie to lie),
are true?
Answer: I belived him.
Question: Did you see, with your own eyes,
the gunshot wounds of that old man?
Answer: Yes. I saw the old man about a month after the filming, after
he took off the bandages, and I saw scars in the hand and in the foot.
I saw 2 big scars of 2 big holes, and it looked to me like scars from
shooting.
Question: In the scene, in which there a Tank seen running towards
Palestinians lying on the ground, and a voice is heard shouting "The
tank is running over them, It's running over them", is it true that
the
people who were lying on the ground were not run over by the tank or
by any other vehicle?
Answer: Yes. It is obvious from the film.
Question: Is it true that there is no connection between a/m scene
and the part, following the a/m scene, in which people are seen
evacuating a body on an strecher?
Answer: True. The connection evacuating wounded people (...).
Question: Why have you decided to connect, in your film, those 2
scenes, one after the other?
Answer: It was an artistic choice.
Question: Do you truly believe that during the operation in Jenin, the
Israeli soldiers killed people indiscriminately?
Answer: no.
Question: Specify, in detail, all the mesures that you took in order
to
make sure that the things in the movie, which are the subject of the
law suit, are true.
Answer: I belived the things that I've been told. What I did not
belive
was not included in the film.
Question: Is it true that through the film you expressed your negative
feelings towards the IDF and/or the Israeli goverment and/or The
State of Israel?
Answer: Yes. Towards the Israeli government. Not towards the IDF or
the State of Israel.
Question: Why is there, in the film, a "Thank you" credit to Yasser
Abed Rabu?
Answer: Financial help.
Question: What is Yasser Abed Rabu's connection to the film?
Answer: He covered a part of the film expenses.
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