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Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference

by "L Alpert" <alpertl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 22, 2008 at 07:38 PM

"Avenger" <avenger@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> <flaviaR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:Tzbhk.288$oU.244@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> One point of detail: he took the life of a child *in front of the 
>> father.*
>> Lower than the lowest thing you can do.
>>
>> Susan
>>
>>
>> On 21-Jul-2008, DoD <danskisanjar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> It seemed such a ghastly trade, flesh and blood for two boxes of
>>> bones. Many criticized it. Some could not bear to watch it. But if
>>> anything showed the difference between Israel and Hezbollah in 
>>> last
>>> week's exchange of two dead Israeli soldiers for five live 
>>> prisoners
>>> and 199 corpses, it was not the trade itself.
>>>
>>> It was the reaction.
>>>
>>> In Israel, where the bodies of Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev 
>>> arrived
>>> in black coffins, the mood was, according to re****ts, somber and
>>> mournful. Candles were lit. Prayers were recited. These two young
>>> soldiers, both students and reservists at the time, were captured 
>>> in a
>>> cross-border raid two years ago by Hezbollah guerrillas, setting 
>>> off a
>>> small war that ultimately left 160 Israelis and 1000 Lebanese 
>>> dead.
>>>
>>> Because the Israeli military vows to never leave a soldier on the
>>> battlefield, negotiations were held to get the two men back, even
>>> though most believed they were dead. Hezbollah, which captured the 
>>> two
>>> men to use them as bargaining chips, held firm to its demand that
>>> Israel free several prisoners, including one named Samir Kuntar.
>>>
>>> Not Kuntar, many Israelis said. He was serving life sentences for
>>> murdering three people in 1979: a police officer, a civilian named
>>> Danny Haran, and Haran's four year-old daughter, whose head Kuntar
>>> smashed on rocks and with his rifle butt. Haran's wife, hiding her
>>> other baby from Kuntar, covered her mouth to stop her whimpering. 
>>> The
>>> child suffocated.
>>>
>>> Kuntar's killings were regarded in Israel as the most brutal form 
>>> of
>>> terrorism. The thought of freeing him went against every fiber of
>>> justice.
>>>
>>> But last week, after almost 30 years behind bars, Kuntar was 
>>> allowed
>>> to go by the Israeli authorities. And on Wednesday, he walked down 
>>> a
>>> red carpet in Beirut and was kissed by the Hezbollah leader and
>>> cheered like a rock star.
>>>
>>> "Samir! Samir!" the crowd re****tedly yelled. This for a man 
>>> convicted
>>> of sma****ng a child's head into pieces.
>>>
>>> You can take whatever side you like in the Israeli-Palestinian 
>>> debate.
>>> You can argue who is entitled to land and statehood and borders.
>>>
>>> But you cannot defend the frenzied lovefest that took place for 
>>> Kuntar
>>> in Lebanon, as if he were some long-lost statesmen, instead of a
>>> common murderer who did the worst thing you can do: take the life 
>>> of a
>>> child. What religion condones that? What holy book says that is a 
>>> good
>>> thing? A banner in Beirut, according to the New York Times, read 
>>> "G-
>>> d's Achievement Through Our Hands."
>
>
> Although I think the jews have to be kept under close scrutiny and 
> on a short leash,

Funny, many feel the same about goyim.

> honouring a thug like this is disgusting. But this really has 
> nothing to do with religion, it's just old fa****oned ethnic vs. 
> ethnic killing.
>
>
>
>
>>>
>>> What G-d would have a child's murder on anyone's hands? How do 
>>> people
>>> celebrate such a killer?
>>>
>>> Is it because the little girl was Israeli - and Israel is the 
>>> enemy?
>>> Since when does a 4-year-old know of politics or war? Is it 
>>> because
>>> Arab children get killed by Israelis? Yes, children undeniably die 
>>> in
>>> bombings - on both sides. But an Israeli soldier who deliberately
>>> smashed a child's head on a rock would be tried as a criminal, not
>>> cheered like a hero.
>>>
>>> The total disregard for life of anyone who does not believe what
>>> Hezbollah believes stands in stark contrast to the value of life - 
>>> and
>>> even of its demise - that Israel demonstrated in bringing those 
>>> two
>>> bodies back. The families of Goldwasser and Regev were able to put
>>> their sons in the ground, to say goodbye, to end the wondering. 
>>> That
>>> small act meant something to the government, which voted on the
>>> exchange. In the midst of the never-ending conflict Israel faces, 
>>> that
>>> says an awful lot.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, here is what Kuntar said to the cheering crowd: "I 
>>> return
>>> from Palestine only to go back to Palestine. I promise families in
>>> Palestine that we are coming back, me and my brothers in the
>>> resistance."
>
> I think the jews should ask themselves what would make a person this 
> bitter and savage.
>
>
>
>>>
>>> You'll note he never says the word "Israel." To men like Kuntar,
>>> Israel does not exist and should never exist. He and the terrorist
>>> group that freed him (and you can install Hezbollah into all the
>>> government seats you want, a terrorist group is still a terrorist
>>> group) want a world in which Israel has no place. The Jews should 
>>> be
>>> driven into the sea.
>>>
>>> With a philosophy like that, it may be hard to expect remorse. But 
>>> if
>>> you can justify Hezbollah calling a national holiday to cheer home 
>>> a
>>> child murderer, there is no talking to you. There is only 
>>> mourning -
>>> as there was over two coffins last week - for a world in which 
>>> such
>>> things and such thinking can take place.
>>> http://jewishworldreview.com/0708/albom072108.php3
>
>
 




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A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
DoD <danskisanjar@[EMA  2008-07-21 09:00:48 
Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
flaviaR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-22 02:26:59 
Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
"Avenger" <a  2008-07-22 09:05:21 
Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
"L Alpert" <  2008-07-22 19:38:29 
Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
flaviaR@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-23 22:39:17 
Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
"B. H. Cramer"   2008-07-26 16:01:05 
Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
"Freedom Jew" &  2008-07-26 16:04:19 
Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
LApert <LApert@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 00:26:34 
Re: A grim exchange illustrates a key difference
"B. H. Cramer"   2008-07-22 19:03:23 

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