Re: Does Barack Hussein Obama stand for anything? Now he will

Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> 
> Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'') wrote:
> 
> >
> > Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> >
> >>Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'') wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Bill Bonde { ''Direct And On Point'') wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>More Floridians left the polls thinking they had voted for Gore
than Bush.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Who knows what they thought?
> >>>>
> >>>>In the unlikely event you might actually address the issue
substantively:
> >>>>
>
>>>>http://www.nytimes.com/images/2001/11/12/politics/recount/design.html
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>This is so pre-9/11. In any case, OVERVOTES don't count.
> >>
> >>These were "overvotes" where the person voted for Gore on the ballot
and
> >>also wrote in Gore's name.
> >>
> > What are?
> 
> Are we supposed to guess at what your point is?
> 
It's kind of a puzzle.



> >>>>>>>>Confirm you mean the will of the Florida voters and not the will
of the
> >>>>>>>>American people.    You will remember that Gore gathered half a
million more
> >>>>>>>>votes than Bush nationally in 2000.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I don't know that since there is no national vote for president.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The national vote does not determine who wins, but there is one
and Gore
> >>>>>>won it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No there isn't.
> >>>>
> >>>>Again, brilliantly argued.  Maybe you were asleep on election day,
but
> >>>>the nation voted and the names on the ballots were Gore and Bush.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>I think you are confused. Americans elect electors who then go to a
> >>>meeting of the electoral college and vote for who will be president
> >>>and vice president. There is no national popular vote. Had there
> >>>been, the difference in the totals between Bush and Gore would've
> >>>triggered a nation-wide recount just like happened in Florida.
> >>>Since that never happened, there is no way to know what a true
> >>>national popular vote total would be.
> >>
> >>The *names* on the ballots were Gore and Bush, not the electors.
> >>
> >
> > Right, but there's no national popular election for president.
> 
> But there is a national popular vote, and Gore won it.
> 
There is not a national popular vote.



> >>Gore
> >>won the national popular vote by over 500 thousand out of just over
100
> >>million cast, about 0.5%.  A comparable difference in Florida would
have
> >>been about 30 thousand votes.
> >>
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that .5% is within the requirements for a recount:
> 
> It was .52%, greater than the margin that would trigger a Florida
recount.
> 
Oh good grief.




> >>Had Bush won Florida by 30 thousand, we would know for sure Bush won.
> >>
> >
> > Not true. The various over and undervote counting schemes could be
> > used to skew the election all over the map.
> 
> Not one effin chance in the world recounts would move 30 thousand votes
> in Florida, nor over 500 thousand nationwide.
> 
With the games you want to play with under and over vote counting,
anything is possible.



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