Re: Does Barack Hussein Obama stand for anything? Now he

On Jul 8, 7:20 pm, Jeffrey Turner <jtur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'') wrote:
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> > Jeffrey Turner wrote:
> >>Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'') wrote:
> >>>Jeffrey Turner wrote:
> >>>>Bill Bonde { ''Soylent Diesel is People'') wrote:
> >>>>>Donna Evleth wrote:
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> >>>>>>>From: "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>>>>>Organization: Newsgroups-Download.com
> >>>>>>>Newsgroups:
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>>>>>>>alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,aus.politics,uk.politics.misc,so
> >>>>>>>c.retirement
> >>>>>>>Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:58:33 -1000
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: Does Barack Hussein Obama stand for anything? Now he
will
> >>>>>>>"rethink"   Iraq troop pullout position
>
> >>>>>>>No one can say what he meant, because he has been all over the
place when it
> >>>>>>>comes to the subject of Iraq.  I defy you to tell me what his
real position
> >>>>>>>on Iraq is.  But he certainly is not stupid.  Everything he does
is
> >>>>>>>calculated to get him elected.  As for whether he is lying, I
suspect that
> >>>>>>>no one can say that he was lying, simply because he has said so
many
> >>>>>>>contradictory things about the subject matter.
>
> >>>>>>I am not at all sure that McCain has not done the same thing.  And
it makes
> >>>>>>me sad for both of them.  I wish that elections were not decided
by what the
> >>>>>>polls say this minute and ten minutes from now, or what interest
group (the
> >>>>>>far left, the far right) the candidates think they need to cater
to.  But
> >>>>>>this is how it is these days.  The message given the voting public
is:
> >>>>>>"ADJUST".
>
> >>>>>McCain has consistently sup****ted the effort in Iraq and
> >>>>>Afghanistan.
>
> >>>>When are the people who supposedly sup****t the wars going to start
> >>>>paying for them?
>
> >>>Their taxes are paying for the war effort. You just assume that
> >>>taxes first go to social programmes.
>
> >>I assume that taxes go to pay for the budget first.  Are you claiming
> >>the gov't is borrowing money for food stamps?
>
> > Most of the budget is social programmes, they are out of control.
> > So yes.
>
> Most of the budget is military and interest on the debt.  Most of the
> debt is from Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II.

All thanks to the Democrat controlled Congress.

> --Jeff
>
> --
> The struggle with evil by means of violence
> is the same as an attempt to stop a cloud,
> in order that there may be no rain. -Leo Tolstoy