Re: #Why Amtrak is dying when we need it the most

"David Moffitt" <dmoffitt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Mitchell Holman" <Noemail@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>| > "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>| >|   Still waiting for Bonde to reply to these points:
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>| >|   I asked the difference was between subsidies for mass transit and
>| >| subsidies for air****ts. Bone replies for asking for proof of air****t
>| >| subsidies. I posted the proof. Bonde asked for proof again. I
>| >| reposted the proof. Bonde never replied.
>| >|
>| >|   Bonde said that on some transit systems the fare box only cover
>| >|   ten 
>| >| percent of costs. I asked him to name some systems where this
>| >| happens. Bonde said he never made the claim. I posted a link to his
>| >| post where made that claim. Bonde has not explained that.
>| >|
>| >|  I noted that if you eliminate transit subsidies many people will
>| >|  pay 
>| >| $10 to $20 a day for a commute. Bonde said if one pays $10 a day
>| >| they are already driving. I posted two examples, one from the NY
>| >| area and one from the Bay Area, where commutes are already $10.
>| >| Bonde said he never made that claim.
>| >|
>| >|  Bonde said that most people in urban areas drive to work. I said
>| >|  that 
>| >| he must not have visited New York City if he thinks that most urban
>| >| commuters drive. Her asked what NYC has to do with the topic,
>| >| apparently he does not think that is an urban area.
>| >
>| > %%%% Why should a corn farmer in Iowa subsidize a New Yorkers
>| > trans****tation to work?
>| >
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>|   Because it is in the national interest.
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> %%%% No it isn't. How is not subsidizing the trans****tation to work of 
> someone in New York going to effect a potato farmer in Idaho?
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    The city dwellers pay crop subsidies that farmers get,
the farmers pay for road systems that the city workers use.
A national road network benefits the whole country. Got it?



>  Why should
>| that same corn farmer subsidize the Reagan Air****t or
>| Yellowstone National Park?
> 
> %%%% The National Park system benifits everyone.
> 

    So does a reliable national road network.