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Senate Dems Approve Wire Tapping Immunity: LibMaggots go Ballistic ! LOL!

by "DRILL ANWR NOW" <ANWR Oil is needed now@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 9, 2008 at 03:26 PM

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Senate commits to ****elding telecoms from suits
Jul 9 03:15 PM US/Eastern
By PAMELA HESS
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91QGU2G2&show_article=1

      WA****NGTON (AP) - The Senate on Wednesday affirmed its intention to 
protect from civil lawsuits telecom companies that helped the government 
wiretap Americans without court authorization after the Sept. 11 attacks.
      It turned back three amendments that were offered during final
debate 
on a bill that overhauls the rules on secret government eavesdropping.

      The votes suggest the surveillance bill will pass by an easy margin 
later Wednesday, and signal an end to almost a year of wrangling between
the 
House and Senate, Democrats and Republicans, and Congress and the White 
House over the president's warrantless wiretapping program.

      The House approved the surveillance overhaul last month.

      The long fight on Capitol Hill has centered on one question: whether

to ****eld from civil lawsuits telecommunications companies that helped the

government eavesdrop on American phone and computer lines after the 9/11 
terrorist attacks, without the permission or knowledge of a secret court 
created by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

      The lawsuits allege that the White House and the companies violated 
U.S. law by going around the FISA court to start the wiretaps. The court
was 
created 30 years ago to prevent the government from abusing its
surveillance 
powers for political purposes, as was done in the Vietnam War and
Watergate 
eras. The court is meant to approve all wiretaps placed inside the U.S.
for 
intelligence-gathering purposes. The law has been interpreted to include 
international e-mail records stored on servers inside the U.S.

      "This president broke the law," said Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wis.

      The Bush administration brought the wiretapping back under the FISA 
court's authority only after The New York Times revealed the existence of 
the program. A handful of members of Congress knew about the program from 
top secret briefings. Most members are still forbidden to know the details

of the classified program, and some object that they are being asked to 
grant immunity to the telecoms without first knowing what they did.

      The White House had threatened to veto the bill unless it immunized 
companies like AT&T Inc. and Verizon Communications Inc., from wiretapping

lawsuits. About 40 such lawsuits have been filed. They are all pending 
before a single federal district court.

      Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., compared the senate vote on immunity to 
buying a "pig in a poke."

      Opponents to immunity argue that only in court will the full extent
of 
the program be understood, and only a judge should decide whether the 
program broke the law.

      Just under a third of the Senate, including presumptive Democratic 
presidential nominee Barack Obama, sup****ted an amendment proposed by Sen.

Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., that would have stripped immunity from the
bill. 
It was defeated on a 32-66 vote. Presumptive Republican nominee John
McCain 
did not vote.

      Specter proposed an amendment to require a district court judge to 
*****s the legality of warrantless wiretapping before granting immunity.
It 
failed on a 37-61 vote.

      Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., proposed that immunity be delayed until 
after a yearlong government investigation into warrantless wiretapping is 
completed. His amendment failed on a vote of 42-56.

      The bill tries to address concerns about the warrantless wiretapping

program by requiring inspectors general inside the government to conduct a

yearlong investigation into the program.

      The new surveillance bill also sets new rules for government 
eavesdropping. Some of them would tighten the reins on current government 
surveillance activities, and others loosen them compared with a law passed

30 years ago.

      For example, it would require the government to get FISA court 
approval before it eavesdrops on an American overseas. Currently, the 
attorney general approves that category of electronic surveillance on his 
own.

      But the bill also would allow the government to obtain broad,
yearlong 
intercept orders from the FISA court that target foreign groups and
people, 
raising the prospect that communications with innocent Americans would be 
swept up. The court would approve how the government chooses the targets, 
and how the intercepted American communications are to be protected.

      The original FISA law required the government to get wiretapping 
warrants for each individual targeted from inside the United States, on
the 
rationale that most communications inside the U.S. would involve Americans

whose civil liberties must be protected. But technology has changed.
Purely 
foreign communications increasingly pass through U.S. wires and sit on 
American computer servers, and the law required court orders be obtained
to 
access those as well.

      The bill would give the government a week to conduct a wiretap in an

emergency before it must apply for a court order. The original law only 
allowed three days.

      The bill restates that the FISA law is the only means by which 
wiretapping for intelligence purposes can be conducted inside the United 
States. This is meant to prevent a repeat of warrantless wiretapping by 
future administrations.

      The bill is very much a political compromise reached against a 
deadline: Yearlong wiretapping orders authorized by Congress last year
will 
begin to expire in August. Without a new bill, the government would go
back 
to old FISA rules, requiring multiple new orders and potential delays to 
continue those intercepts, something most of Congress did not want to see 
happen, particularly in an election year.
      Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This 
material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



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Senate Dems Approve Wire Tapping Immunity: LibMaggots go Ballist
"DRILL ANWR NOW"  2008-07-09 15:26:06 
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lorad <lorad474@[EMAIL  2008-07-09 12:45:57 
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Mani Deli <nothing@[EM  2008-07-09 17:59:45 
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Patriot Games <Patriot  2008-07-10 13:18:46 
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lorad <lorad474@[EMAIL  2008-07-09 15:24:23 
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Info Junkie <bondrock@  2008-07-12 22:30:53 
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znuybv <thowilson@[EMA  2008-07-10 10:25:37 
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lorad <lorad474@[EMAIL  2008-07-10 11:23:18 
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bw@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bl  2008-07-10 18:55:42 
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znuybv <thowilson@[EMA  2008-07-12 12:12:10 
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retrogrouch@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-12 12:45:02 
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znuybv <thowilson@[EMA  2008-07-12 12:13:10 
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