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Re: Soviet lies about Baltic "liberation"

by "Antti Kuusela" <aquu-sela@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2005 at 01:11 AM

> Antti Kuusela wrote:
>> I could not believe my eyes today as I read BBC news
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4517683.stm
>>
>> **snip**
>> Russia has made defiant remarks on the issue of the occupation.
>>
>> "There was no occupation. There were agreements at the time with the
>> legitimately elected authorities in the
>> Baltic countries," the Kremlin's European affairs chief Sergei
> Yastrzhembsky
>> said on Thursday [5th May 2005].
>>
>> **snip**
>>
>> I understand that many russians are very reluctant to admit
> atrocities
>> commited during the glorious Soviet times
>> but that they would degenerate to this point is just unbelievable.
> While it
>> is just natural that during dictator****p the Truth
>> is often twisted so that serves the regimes objectives, this kind of
>> rhetoric from a Kreml official in present day is just absurd.
>>
>> I would like to know is there anybody who could explain why would
> Russian
>> government let out
>> such a blatant _LIE_. There is no question whatsoever that whatever
>> elections there were held in the Baltic states, were
>> fraudulent.
>>
>> The Soviets drove the nazis away, no doubt about it, but then stayed
> so one
>> cruel occupier was just replaced by another.. almost as cruel.


<targon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:1115375756.567470.4870@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Why do you bother?

Because i'm interested why intelligent person (gotta be intelligent if 
you're high official in Kreml)
speaks out a lie like that. Does he really believe that himself or was it 
meant to be somekind of provocation?

I'm not trying to point out every evil deed USSR did, but insted focusing
to 
find out is that official and un-official truth in Russia
that Balts WANTED in free will join the Soviet Union?

> On my side, Western press if full with "funny"
> contradictions and misguiding articles. E.g. they blame USSR for the
> non-agression pact with Germany holding back about the earler
> non-agression pacts between Germany and GB, for example. But of course
> they don't blame USSR for asking GB and France to attack Hitler c.a.
> 1936 - they pass over in silence.

I believe the reason for WW2 was because Britain and France humiliated and

robbed  Germany in the Versailles treaty.
They actually blamed Germany for the WW1 which was of course total crap: 
there was no single country guilty for that war.
I think the British and French are hypocrites while they are just as
guilty 
for BOTH wars as the Germans.

>Or... but why do I need to
> re-brainwash Western people? It could be dangerous for they mental
> health, after all.
> On other hand I'm (and the majority of Russians) quite ignorant towards
> the rains of dirt Western media is trying to pour on us. In fact, the
> more you critique as, the more we're sure in our position.

Why do want to swallow everything in just one huge mouthful? You sound
like 
a fanatic muslim with your black and white thinking.
Would you agree with this one:
"okay USSR did crush the nazis, which was good thing, and did take couple
of 
little countries like the Baltics by force, which was a bad thing".?


>West wants
> Russia to be weak, punished, confessed and eventualy extinct. So they
> recomend us the best way to do things they want.
> No way.
> So live with you history and let others live with their.

Nope, West wants Russia to be strong and healthy. But what it wants even 
more is Russia to ASSIMILATE. West wants you to become western.
West wants you all to have cars and fridges and electronic toothbrushes
and 
mobile phones and you to eat at MacDonalds.
 




 4 Posts in Topic:
Soviet lies about Baltic "liberation"
"Antti Kuusela"  2005-05-05 20:40:29 
Re: Soviet lies about Baltic "liberation"
targon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2005-05-06 03:35:56 
Re: Soviet lies about Baltic "liberation"
"Antti Kuusela"  2005-05-07 01:11:12 
Re: Soviet lies about Baltic "liberation"
targon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2005-05-11 01:00:29 

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