On Apr 21, 12:53 am, Tom <thomaskolter_k...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I would like to start a fundamental issue discussion on this question:
> Is there a point where we no longer have a moral duty to the Federal
> and to a lesser extent the State governments as a citizen of the
> United States?
>
> I will place as my point of this end of duty a simple one. Its no
> longer a viable and legal government when the Federal authority
> violates the core authority limits in the Constitution and is
> therefore acting against the limits of the highest law of the land. I
> would place it here because no authority can be above the highest laws
> of the land, no president and no member of the Congress can violate
> that and no judge do so not without losing their credibility.
>
> In my estimation the current government under this standard is no
> longer meeting the moral and legal authority to demand I be loyal to
> the Federal Government and is a de facto illegal government. Just the
> fact it ignores limits afforded to it and it has far exceeded the
> powers confined to the Constitution proves that enough such as the
> illegal and long term standing Army as just one example and the
> destruction of States Rights at fundamental levels. I for one feel
> more loyalty to my State and local governments over the Federal one
> and that is sad for me personally to love my country but not the
> government that leads it but for me they have gone to far to give them
> my allegiance.
Why do we ever have a moral duty to obey the government? What right
does the government have to claim authority over a territory in the
first place? The U.S. government, and most state governments, seized
their territory by force and by killing off the native inhabitants.
If some foreign power did that to the U.S. now, would that make them
the legitimate moral authority in the land?
I obey those laws that reflect my moral standards (e.g., laws against
robbery, murder, rape, fraud) or some other laws as a practical matter
(I'll be fined or imprisoned if I don't). But I don't recognize any
government's moral authority over me.
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