On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:21:02 -0700, Tom wrote:
> On Apr 21, 9:18 am, ZerkonX <Z...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> (Forgive the basics here but you bring up a well worn topic that needs
to
>> be kept well worn. I am going to do my part here and again)
>>
>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:53:38 -0700, Tom wrote:
>> > Is there a point where we no longer have a moral duty to the Federal
and
>> > to a lesser extent the State governments as a citizen of the United
>> > States?
>>
>> There is unless one has no civic worth.
>>
>> It is this 'we' part that is difficult. Let's start from here ....
>>
>> ============================
>> ...
>> That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
>> deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That
>> whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it
is
>> the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
>> Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its
>> powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their
>> Safety and Happiness
>> ============================
>>
>> Of course the DOI is not law however, for a civic American, it can be
>> placed 'above' the law, or, by which all law, government and all judges
>> and courts can be measured. One can use the DOI or not. One can use the
>> tenets of Planet X. One uses what they think best. How else, right?
>>
>> It begins with "I" or you. Your idea or feeling has social merit when
>> expressed (which you have). This idea becomes politically viable if
held
>> in common by others and actualized with political movement in whatever
>> form.
>>
>> So, you have declared your opinion. I do not think it is altogether
>> presumptuous to say that others share this opinion. Ok, now what?
>> Will media anointed, therefore acclaimed popular, Obama or MacCain
quell
>> your misgivings? If so, then wait. If not, then what?
>
> I would state that first if I must decide on my sacred honor to refuse
> an order of the Federal Government I must do so if it violates my
> rights as per the Constitution. An act of personal rebellion against a
> tyranny for what good it is or is not to inspire others to such an
> action.
>
> I ,like most, would favor peaceful action that means the power to
> vote, to destroy a government legally and morally, but with the
> overwhelming power held by two parties neither just that is not much
> of an option. Unless third parties can get an equal hearing there is
> no democracy and with the money corrupting the political process that
> is unlikely. No single or group of third parties could match the
> resources of the Republicans or Democrats to wage this sort of war.
>
> That leaves us one last hope short of rebellion that the Federal
> Government will no longer function and collapse and that seems likely
> with the national debt, deficit spending and gross abuses of power
> being used and growing. It will be up to the States to act then and
> rebuild a new government.
There is another option, immigration. I, for one, have decided that my
family is better served by finding a refuge from the thugs who now govern
than by my death in an act of rebellion.
> But failing that all there is always armed rebellion to destroy the
> government but with the sheep now out there calling themselves
> citizens that is unlikely for now.
-- Regards, Curly
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