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Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?

by ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 12:46 PM

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:21:02 -0700, Tom wrote:

> I would state that first if I must decide on my sacred honor to refuse
> an order of the Federal Government I must do so if it violates my rights
> as per the Constitution

Morality is a personal issue not that it is an invalid one. I think the 
basic issue here is one of contract or agreement made between an employer 
and employee. Does the employee fulfill the terms of the contract?

> the Republicans or Democrats ...

are in no legal, much less moral, Constitutional position to demand 
anything of anyone. They are political unions that vie for contracts.  
Fidelity and moral obligation is given to the contract not the 
contractors.

> Unless third parties can get an equal hearing..

True but messy, really messy. Now we must bring in the role of the press 
and with that the entire political 'establishment'. 

It is unreasonable that just two parties, or the platforms of two 
parties, can represent the political will of the entire United States. 
The only argument for this is that this system best maintains the basic 
status-quo, or the "My god, look at Italy!", type argument which preys on 
fear. It is the argument of a coward. Say what you will about Italy, at 
least they are not a nation of political pussies and frightened children.

The reality is the political status quo makes money. It makes public 
money much more accessible to the private political establishment in the 
form of contracts, favors and, as we now see AGAIN, bailouts. This, in 
turn, is what is called a 'free market system' which, perversely enough, 
is now being equated with 'democracy'.

> Federal Government will no longer function and collapse and that seems 
> likely with the national debt, deficit spending and gross abuses of 
> power being used and growing. It will be up to the States to act then 
> and rebuild a new government.

It is more than a Federal Government that will be rebuilt. I have little 
confidence in the States which have been made into essentially Federal 
Districts and are mostly smaller versions of the Federal Model. No, what 
you are wanting is something much larger, I think.
 




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At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
Tom <thomaskolter_keen  2008-04-20 21:53:38 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-21 13:18:58 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
Tom <thomaskolter_keen  2008-04-21 08:21:02 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
Curly Surmudgeon <Curl  2008-04-22 00:01:33 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
Nicklas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 10:39:19 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
John Graeme <jdgraeme@  2008-04-21 09:42:19 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-21 11:02:47 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
Bernard Curry <bccom@[  2008-04-21 12:52:14 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
Curly Surmudgeon <Curl  2008-04-21 23:58:25 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
solon fox <solonfox@[E  2008-04-21 11:07:01 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-23 12:46:03 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-23 12:46:44 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
Curly Surmudgeon <Curl  2008-04-25 01:57:26 
Re: At what point do we no longer have to obey the government?
ZerkonX <Z@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-23 13:01:47 

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