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Interesting development exposing the hand behind the violent riots

by "ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 18, 2008 at 02:47 PM

On Mar 18, 11:05 am, PaPaPeng <PaPaP...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> My post refers to a related article [Dalai Lama threatens to quit amid
> Chinese accusations.]  Tania Branigan in Beijing. guardian.co.uk,
> Tuesday March 18
2008.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/18/tibet.ch=
ina3
>
> PPP: The FALLOUT
>
> What resignation?  Being Dalai Lama is an appointment for life.  If
> the DL resigns he has to die first before the next DL can be chosen.
> The next DL must be a Tibetan child born under auspicious
> cir***stances INSIDE Tibet (1).  This child must be discovered in the
> course of an extensive search by a panel of senior Buddhist monks.
> None of the DL's ranking religious officials have authority outside
> their small clique in Daramsalah.  They have no ability to conduct
> such a search in Tibet.  DL's rump Buddhist sect dies with him.  None
> of his "Government in Exile" has any following, authority or raison
> d'=EAtre post DL.
>
> Since the DL has taken credit for giving voice to the frustrations of
> Tibetans inside Tibet his implied role is an offer to mediate. But
> what exactly were those frustrations and what objectives had the
> Tibetan Underground (TUs)  hoped to achieve?  Since the DL cannot
> claim(2) to be their leader then who is the TU leader or TU
> organization that can make political demands on the Chinese
> government. If there is no TU organization then the rioters were just
> the garden variety of anarchists and terrorists since none of the
> ordinary Tibetans joined in the rioting.  Since the DL gave them
> direct moral sup****t the DL is sup****ting anarchism and terrorist
> activities as evidenced by the mayhem caused.
>
> The ability of Chinese authorities to provide overwhelming security
> force and impose order was never in question. It took less than a day
> to lock down Lhasa and a few other affected Chinese towns.  The
> identification and arrests of Tibet rioters should not be too
> difficult a task.  We'll wait for the rest of the story.  In the
> meantime the Dalai Lama has a big job ahead in spin control.
>
> (1) I do reacall a TV re****t on a sumptious Tibetan temple
> establishment in California.  This one came complete with a 14 year
> old white boy who was the next Dalai Lama designate, anointed by the
> DL himself.  He came across as a nice intelligent kid who was having a
> hoot.  Likely great as a fund raiser.  But as the next DL?  Nah.
> (2) A claim would destroy his negotiating position with the Chinese
> and place into jea****dy his status with the Indian government.
>
>
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> Dalai Lama threatens to quit amid Chinese accusations
>
> "  Tania Branigan in Beijing
> "  guardian.co.uk,
> "  Tuesday March 18 2008
> "  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/18/tibet.china3
>
> The Chinese premier, Wen Jiabao, today ramped up government attacks on
> the Dalai Lama, accusing followers of the exiled Tibetan spiritual
> leader of orchestrating riots in Lhasa in order to sabotage the
> Beijing Olympics.

I think Wen's word is "the Dalai Lai clique."
>
> His comments prompted the Dalai Lama to say he would resign if the
> unrest, which has spread to other provinces, spiralled out of control.

Who is his audience?
Which group will be threated or undermine what group's legitimacy?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i7SG2S0tjsZmA-pxEVt2tAzcqXdwD8VG1SUG0

"It's a warning he has used before -- telling Tibetans to return to
peaceful protests during 1989 unrest -- but this time it comes
amid deep divisions within the Tibetan community between those
who back his pacifist approach and an angry young generation
that demands action."

However, the deep division largely exists within the exile community.
Between those who are more peaceful and those who are on the side
of Tibetan Youth Congress who think the DL's is given up too much
for nothing.

Now the question: If the angry Tibetan Youth Congress and their likes
do not have a hand in Lhasa's violence, how could the DL resignation
threaten them?



>
> Speaking at a press conference, Wen told re****ters that the situation
> was "basically" returning to normal.
>
> However, he added: "There is ample fact and plenty of evidence proving
> this incident was organised, premeditated, masterminded and incited by
> the Dalai clique.
>
> "This has all the more revealed [that] the consistent claims by the
> Dalai clique that they pursue not independence but peaceful dialogue
> are nothing but lies."
>
> Wen said the protesters "wanted to incite the sabotage of the Olympic
> games in order to achieve their unspeakable goal".
>
> Asked whether he feared boycotts of this summer's Beijing event, he
> insisted: "I have confidence [that] the smiles of 1.3 billion Chinese
> people ... will be reciprocated by the smiles of people from all over
> the world."
>
> In a separate press conference, the foreign ministry spokesman, Qin
> Gang, dismissed the Dalai Lama's calls for an investigation into the
> Chinese crackdown on the demonstrations.
>
> "The one who should be tried and investigated is the Dalai Lama
> himself," he said. "I feel at least he should be put under moral
> trial."
>
> Wen told re****ters the authorities had responded to the protests with
> "extreme restraint".
>
> Officials said 13 "innocent civilians" died last week, adding that
> three rioters were killed when they jumped off a roof to escape
> police. Tibetan exile groups said the death toll was at least 99 -
> including 19 deaths in protests outside Tibet today.
>
> Central Lhasa is understood to remain under lockdown, with witnesses
> re****ting that mass arrests were taking place well before yesterday's
> midnight deadline for protesters to hand themselves in.
>
> "When the fighting began, you saw no Chinese," a Canadian tourist who
> left Tibet today told Reuters. "Now you see no Tibetans on the
> streets. The young Tibetans are probably hiding."
>
> Speaking at a news conference at his base in Dharamsala, northern
> India, the Dalai Lama, a Nobel peace laureate, brushed off the Chinese
> attack.
>
> "Investigate thoroughly, so if you want to start investigating from
> here you are most welcome," he said.
>
> "Check our various offices ... they can examine my pulse, my urine, my
> stool, everything."
>
> He said that, if matters became "out of control", his "only option is
> to completely resign".
>
> His spokesman, Tenzin Taklha, said the unrest started with one or two
> incidents. "Because of technology, because of word of mouth, word
> quickly spread," he added. "This was very spontaneous."
>
> Kenneth Roth, the executive director of Human Rights Watch, told
> re****ters it was facile to attribute unrest "to some deep, dark
> conspiracy bred by the Dalai Lama".
>
> "A degree of introspection on the part of Beijing would be appropriate
> in understanding why the Tibetan people feel so repressed by China's
> restrictive policies," he said.
>
> Roth called for more pressure to be put on China over its handling of
> the protests, saying the Olympics provided "an op****tunity to
> encourage a positive evolution".
>
> However, he added that boycotting the games would not be productive
> because the games were so popular with ordinary Chinese people.
>
> While the EU and many nations urged Beijing to show restraint, the
> International Olympic Committee president, Jacques Rogge, yesterday
> said there had been "absolutely no calls" for a boycott.
>
> Hans-Gert Poettering, the president of the European parliament, said
> politicians planning to attend the opening ceremonies should
> "consider, if [the violence] continues, whether it would be
> responsible to make such a trip".
 




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Interesting development exposing the hand behind the violent rio
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