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Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China

by PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 01:28 PM

On 1 May 2008 07:38:02 -0500, "Toby" <kymarto123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>And yet not one Chinese will openly criticize the government publicly, or
at 
>least the few who dare to try, like Hu Jia, are jailed. Mao is dead, but 
>many of his policies live on.
>


You mistake popular sup****t for the government  and reluctant
politeness not to raise contentious issues with non Chinese as
government oppression.  Why would any Chinese person want to discuss
Chinese issues with you when you show such obvious ignorance across a
broad spectrum of Chinese matters. You can't even remember the name of
the next three Chinese leaders after Hu Jintao. And you make
judgements on China based on your western expectations of how Chinese
should behave according to your cultural biases, not how Chinese
conduct their affairs in Chinese society. China has nowheere the
social tensions you have in the West. It is both impolite and
frustrating to have to explain to you and to correct you on every
other sentence you utter.  Experience is such that even after
correcting your mistakes you default back to your original prejudices
the moment you read another biased western article.  You are a guest.
So let's keep to bland pleasantries and enjoy the food.  Make your own
observations and draw your own conclusions. We don't care how you mess
up your own society.  Don't try to mess up ours.
 




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Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
visualseeplus@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-29 21:12:30 
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"AleXX" <mac  2008-04-30 12:20:06 
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Wakalukong <wakalukong  2008-04-29 23:12:28 
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Yaya Kimura <venuschas  2008-04-30 03:02:56 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-04-30 21:31:52 
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PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-04-30 15:42:47 
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"Jakub A. Krzewicki&  2008-04-30 18:25:08 
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PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-04-30 16:52:13 
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"RussellT" <  2008-04-30 10:46:18 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-04-30 10:08:13 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-04-30 08:51:48 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-04-30 08:52:45 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-04-30 08:55:53 
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visualseeplus@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-30 19:51:06 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-04-30 20:15:29 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-04-30 20:29:10 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-05-01 07:38:02 
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PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-01 13:28:06 
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"RussellT" <  2008-05-01 16:59:30 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-02 16:04:08 
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"J.Venning" <  2008-05-02 10:18:13 
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"RussellT" <  2008-05-02 18:37:16 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-02 16:02:02 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-01 11:00:38 
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Hairy Dope <clitteigh@  2008-05-01 11:56:27 
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"RussellT" <  2008-05-01 20:04:59 
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"jonathan" <  2008-05-01 20:30:56 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-02 15:56:41 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-01 12:26:52 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-01 13:12:44 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-02 15:57:19 
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Lazarus Cain <rspeakin  2008-05-01 15:37:53 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-01 16:00:46 
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"jonathan" <  2008-05-01 20:14:16 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-01 22:47:27 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-02 16:00:56 
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cnniscrap@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-02 13:10:10 
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"jonathan" <  2008-05-02 23:54:52 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 17:28:32 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 17:31:01 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 17:25:46 
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"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 06:42:05 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 22:12:37 
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"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 06:53:17 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 22:02:10 
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"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 07:22:37 
Don't disrespect me.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 22:33:47 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 22:34:28 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-03 22:36:09 
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"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 07:31:03 
Re: Don't disrespect me.
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 07:41:16 
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"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 07:45:56 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-04 13:34:36 
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"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-03 07:53:27 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-03 10:19:18 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-04 13:33:02 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 15:03:54 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-04 13:35:25 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-04 13:35:44 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-04 13:37:21 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-04 13:38:08 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-04 13:38:40 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-04 13:39:19 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-03 15:10:58 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 15:38:26 
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Politikus <ffasia@[EMA  2008-05-03 21:01:24 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 21:18:34 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-03 22:40:19 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 22:57:01 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 23:08:52 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 13:59:23 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 14:03:03 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-03 23:15:50 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 13:58:28 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 23:18:24 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 14:03:30 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 14:14:12 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 23:19:00 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 14:16:04 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 23:23:04 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 14:17:41 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-03 23:23:32 
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pg <penang@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-04 02:36:00 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-04 08:13:36 
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bobcat2000@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-04 09:12:25 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 13:58:05 
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"Jim" <jim@[  2008-05-05 22:34:03 
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mongoose <mongoose889@  2008-05-04 12:09:00 
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CharlesLiu <chliu528@[  2008-05-04 12:51:36 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 14:20:36 
Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics in
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-04 17:54:53 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politic
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 14:21:18 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 06:37:20 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 06:41:09 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 22:38:39 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 06:43:00 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 22:40:33 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 06:59:59 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 22:41:36 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 07:01:57 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 07:03:07 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 22:42:43 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-05 07:05:28 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 07:14:46 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-05 22:46:11 
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"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-05 07:37:30 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-06 13:46:48 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 07:49:14 
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=?GB18030?B?1tC5+sjL?= &l  2008-05-06 10:58:16 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 08:08:09 
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=?GB18030?B?1tC5+sjL?= &l  2008-05-06 10:54:46 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-06 13:46:39 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 08:13:58 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-06 13:46:40 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 08:16:15 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-06 13:46:42 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-05 08:43:33 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-06 13:46:43 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-06 13:46:45 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-05 10:42:30 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-06 13:46:47 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-05 12:57:42 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-05 20:15:12 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
mudali@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-05 22:34:46 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-06 01:31:18 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-07 20:46:52 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-06 02:47:16 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
=?GB18030?B?1tC5+sjL?= &l  2008-05-06 18:41:09 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-07 20:46:48 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-06 02:48:04 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-07 20:46:50 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-07 06:44:00 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-09 14:46:48 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-07 07:28:26 
Re: Tourists will be jailed if they talk politics in China
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-09 14:46:47 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-07 07:37:46 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-08 06:26:40 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-09 14:46:49 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-08 08:55:23 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-08 11:21:09 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-08 11:24:27 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 02:23:54 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 02:30:11 
Re: Tourists come to Beijing to celebrate...not to talk politics
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 16:35:08 

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