On 1 May 2008 07:49:02 -0500, "Toby" <kymarto123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Raymond" <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On 30 Apr 2008 10:17:03 -0500, "Toby" <kymarto123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>>>"Raymond" <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:04:04 -0700 (PDT), bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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>>>>>On Apr 28, 7:25?pm, Raymond <ni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:37:37 -0700 (PDT), bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>> >On Apr 28, 3:30?pm, "ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Apr 28, 1:31?am, Lproud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > On Apr 27, 7:03?pm, CharlesLiu <chliu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > > It happened agin. First it was petite children's TV show
host
>>>>>> >> > > Konnie
>>>>>> >> > > Huq ?in London, then it's crippled paralympian Jin Jin - now
a
>>>>>> >> > > 17
>>>>>> >> > > year
>>>>>> >> > > old Japanese table tennis olympian Ai Fukuhara, who trains
in
>>>>>> >> > > China
>>>>>> >> > > and has been a good will ambassador for Japan and China, was
>>>>>> >> > > jumpped
>>>>>> >> > > by a Tibetan from Taiwan:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > >http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/cn/thread-38991-1-1.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > > Why don't you people pick on someone yor own size, instead
of
>>>>>> >> > > going
>>>>>> >> > > after little girls? One legged little girles too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > > Man, you people must fee real brave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > What do you expect from the spokeman of Voice of Tibet.
Attacking
>>>>>> >> > handicap girl in wheel chair is FANTASTIC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Amlz2Jvro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> A lot of these Tibetan exiles are misguided. Many of these folks
>>>>>> >> have
>>>>>> >> never been in Tibet. The Tibet on their mind is the real Tibet.
Yet
>>>>>> >> they think they are better than the millions of real Tibetans in
>>>>>> >> Tibet. Their means is also odd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> Recently, I begin to think they are not responding to the needs
of
>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>> >> real Tibetans. These exiles are a frustrated bunch. And they are
>>>>>> >> responding to what have bappened in the west. ?Since China
ba****ng
>>>>>> >> is
>>>>>> >> becoming fahsionable, they just want to be at the center of this
>>>>>> >> China
>>>>>> >> and Chinese ba****ng party. Hence they will do all sorts of
strange
>>>>>> >> things to attract attention. Luckily, they can also get some
money
>>>>>> >> from westrn countries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> What the spokeman of Vocie of Tibet siad is revealing. His
>>>>>> >> calculation
>>>>>> >> is not about Tibet. His primarily concern is about international
>>>>>> >> publicity. However, the Tibet problem is a Chinese problem. The
>>>>>> >> solution may go through the Chinese poeple. However, these
exiles's
>>>>>> >> protest and Chinese ba****ng are carried out to enrage the
Chinese
>>>>>> >> poeple ?and make their goal further and further away. A new
>>>>>> >> development in China is that some now said it openly "Anyone who
>>>>>> >> negotiates with the DL clique is a traitor."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >It seems that even the poor one-legged fencer is now being branded
a
>>>>>> >traitor by many Chinese. Funny how people on this NG talk a lot
about
>>>>>> >how mean a few people in France were to her but keep quiet about
what
>>>>>> >Chinese are doing to her. You guys sure have a lot of double
>>>>>> >standards...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >"Someone goes to France once and thinks
>>>>>> >she's French. Jin Jing speaks with the voice of an utterly
brainless
>>>>>> >evil-eyed wolf traitor."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing but the disinformation service of your western propaganda
>>>>>> machine. Some anonymous guy talking bull**** over the internet, and
it
>>>>>> was conveniently picked up by your selectively blind western media.
>>>>>> You don't know how stupid it looks, and you again are parading in
>>>>>> front of the world with the lies of your free press. How pathetic.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dang, Ray - you have your schtick down, don't ya? You have been well-
>>>>>trained in logical thought and using demonization as a means of
verbal
>>>>>warfare. Too bad *the truth* is one of the main casualties of trying
>>>>>to have a discussion with you, though. Kinda wrecks your street cred,
>>>>>ya know?
>>>>
>>>> Are you so disgusted that your media tricks don't seem to work any
>>>> more?
>>>
>>>I keep wondering when the real media tricks of the propaganda machines
of
>>>the China Daily and CCTV are going to be recognized by the people of
the
>>>PRC. Probably not for a long time, as you are all so scared of thinking
>>>and
>>>seeking information independently. It's no secret why: open your mouth
>>>with
>>>the least criticism and you get thrown into prison like Hu Jia. Better
to
>>>keep your head down like the Germans in the 1930s and pretend you don't
>>>see
>>>what's going on...
>>>
>>>In China online censor****p is called "Harmonizing the Internet". I love
>>>that.
>>>
>>
>> That is nothing but your biased disinformation service. The voice of
>> dissent is common in Chinese society, but none of them has anything to
>> do with destabilizing the government and the rule of law. Because of
>> that, you intentionally ignore them and label anti-government behavior
>> as democratic moment instead. I doubt you would call Bin Laden a
>> democracy activist, but obviously you want more anti-China Bin Ladens
>> as many as possible.
>
>Such paranoia and xenophobia as yours is typical of quite a few Chinese,
>unfortunately, and is indicative of a high degree of cogintive
dissonance. I
>live in Beijing, work in news and I have seen how it works
**** you for spreading lies. You may work for western propaganda
machine, but you never really concerns the real interest of Chinese
people. That's why you ignore their voices. What do you know about the
local politics in Chinese society? None what's so ever. Therefore,
stop spreading lies. No one except you ignorant western idiots would
believe what you say. You are prejudiced against the Chinese political
and social systems from the inside out. You are nothing but an
arrogant westerner as far as the Chinese people are concerned.
>here when people try to protest or voice concerns. The only reason the
very
>prevalent discontent of the population has nothing to do with
"destabilizing
>the government or the rule of law", as you put it, is because of the iron
>fist of authority which makes sure that the content of dissent stays
within
>very narrow bounds, and immediately and severely punishes anyone who
tries
>to break those bounds. Take Hu Jia for example.
Hu Jia is a ****ing convicted criminal. **** you for speaking for
criminals. **** you for speaking for the force of evil. **** you for
forsaking your heavenly God who is the Truth and Justice for your evil
political purposes. May your God punish you for your evil deeds.
In Christ's name, Amen!!!
Now, you can go to hell you western bastard!
We have interviewed him
>several times and know his story quite well. The tactics of the
authorities
>in his case are shameful, but pose a clear warning to any Chinese
national
>contemplating stepping into taboo territory...
>
>I have been to more than one protest rally and seen the overwhelming
police
>presence and the extreme degree of control exercised. The fact is that
most
>of the dissent which happens in the countryside is never known in the
West
>because of the censor****p of the news media in China.
Since you westerners are such evil bastards who are bent on attacking
the legitimate government of China, it would be better if you know as
little as possible about the daily life of Chinese people so that you
would have nothing to distort and fabricate in attacking China.
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