Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS

Toby wrote:

> "Duke Lama" <duke@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:4868B52E.5E3AE2CF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Toby wrote:
> >
> >> "Duke Lama" <duke@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> news:4868A86E.AEB72401@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jim Walsh wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> brutally
> >> >> repressed, and the riot was a reaction to that brutality.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > You are right when speaking about 4 June 1989. But in the Tibet
case we
> >> > failed to see
> >> > from any media that there had been a preceding peaceful
demonstration.
> >> >
> >>
> >> This was indeed re****ted after the fact, and eyewitnesses were quoted
as
> >> saying that there were peaceful protests that were immediately
brutally
> >> repressed, but Chinese apologists simply dismiss such re****ts as
biased
> >> and
> >> false. Unfortunately the fact that holders of J-1 journalist visas in
> >> China
> >> are not allowed into
> >> Tibet makes field re****ting difficult, which is obviously the reason
for
> >> keeping accredited journalists out of the region in the first place.
> >
> > As you have said, all we learnt about the "peaceful demonstration" (if
> > there had
> > been any) were RE****TED AFTER THE FACT. If that  had been the case, we
> > should
> > have the news or even trace of news circulating via various unoffical
> > channels,
> > such as internet, long before surfacing to the public, just like the
> > "riot" at
> > Guizhou couples of days ago. Remebering that nowaday it is almost
> > impossible to
> > block information flow as compared to 1989.
>
> You conveniently forget that Guizhou is not under the kind of foreign
press
> embargo as is Tibet. In fact there were Internet postings within a day
or so
> of the beginning of the Mar 10 unrest, put up by tourists who witnessed
what
> was happening.
>
> Also, the beginnings of the unrest were very contained with only about
500
> monks at the Drepung monastery protesting, as well as small protests at
> other monasteries. It is quite a bit easier to contain news of what
happened
> there than at Guizhou, with 30,000 people marching.
>
> I am not much in agreeement with the agenda of the Heritage Foundation,
and
> of course it is clear that any trouble in China is welcomed in certain
> American circles, but this is well-researched:
>
> http://www.heritage.org/RESEARCH/ASIAANDTHEPACIFIC/wm1858.cfm
>
> The CCP has repeatedly announced that it has evidence of a conspiracy
and
> the complicity of the Tibetans in Dharamsala, which will be released,
but
> this has never happened. When asked at a press conference which I
attended
> in Beijing what this evidence consisted of, party officials said that
the
> fact that the unrest broke out in several places at the same time was
proof
> of conspiracy. However considering that Mar 10 is the anniversary of the
> 1959 uprising, it is a no-brainer that if unrest were to break out, it
would
> be on that date. I would have put much more credence in their assertions
had
> spontaneous protests broken out on any other day. The CCP also announced
> during the height of the protests that a monk had been arrested who
admitted
> that it had all been planned by the Dalai clique, but this monk was
never
> produced and the story died a quiet death, never to be revived or
expanded.
>
> Disinformation does not need to convince, it serves its purpose if it
can
> simply introduce an element of doubt which can be used as a wedge. Seems
> that you have fallen for that hook, line and sinker.
>
> Toby

As you said, Mar 10 is the sensitive day. So sensitive that every
available
antiCCP party on earth (CIA , FLG, Tibet dissidents, etc) should having
been
probing for problems in the centre of Tibet during the  period.  It 
therefore
sounds weird that there has not been is not a single reference pointing to
a
"peaceful demonstration" that was time stamped prior to the surfacing of
the
riot.

BTW, even the "peaceful demonstration" , according to what's said on the
Heritage Foundation page,  it can hardly be regarded a "brutally
repressed".