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Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS

by "Toby" <kymarto@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 1, 2008 at 11:19 PM

>
> Without getting into philosophy, how does it follow that because yellow
> press exists as part of free press America has become a democracy
without
> citizens (which does not even make sense, since a democracy cannot exist
> without citizens)?

;If you hadn't read the article cited in the beginning post. Please do.
;The author, actually William Lind, lamented that the American press is
;degenerating into yellow press. He did not say yellow press exists as
;part of free press. If you want to relate the two, then American free
;press = American yellow press according to William Lind.

Having been in the news business for over 20 years, I totally agree with
Mr. 
Lind. Yes, unfortunately, the US press is becoming more and more like the 
Chinese press, cedeing their role as independent and critical watchdogs
and 
mindlessly printing "government bulletins". However this process is much 
more complete in China than in the US, and hence my assertion that the US 
press, at its worst, is still light years ahead of what is on offer in
PRC. 
There has also been an big accounting in that regard in the years after
the 
Iraq invasion and occupation, with major news sources such as the New York

Times offering large and sincere mea culpas for their lack of
responsibility 
in uncritically towing the government line. And throughout the darkest
days 
of press kowtowing, there existed a vigorous, if marginalized, sector of
the 
press critical of both the government and the mainstream media. Unlike in 
China, they were neither censored nor prosecuted for their stand.

;As for "democracy without citizens." it is the title of a book by a
;professor Robett Entman. He criticized the American press because it
;is not serving the audiences and enabling them to be responsible
;citizens. Hence America is like a democracy without citizens. The 9/11-
;Iraq case demonstrated that Professor Entman's citicism was right on
;target.  American citizens were misinformed and misled by the so
;called free press to sup****t the invasion of Iraq.

The mistake you make here is that while the press failed in their 
responsibility to remain independent and critical, they remained free, 
unlike in China, where media repression is overt and journalists are 
regularly jailed for exercising their profession. Please read and comment
on 
this:

http://www.campaigns.ifex.org/alerts/content/view/full/87830/


>
> > and the second part is also a non-sequitur. You
> > are very good at twisting information to meet your ends, a true son of

> > the
> > dragon.
>
> "good at twisting information" = "true son of the dragon"
> What is the above for? You don't agree with me, you say it out. Why
> drag in the other issues?
>
> I'll stick to the issues if you will.

????
You have to say derogative thing about  the Chinese people, sons of
the dragon, because I cannot stick to the issues.

No, I say derogatory things about you, as a son of the dragon who does not

have the courage to get out from under the dragon's claw. I have met many 
courageous Chinese who risk much to speak the truth, but you are not one
of 
them.

Toby
 




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AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-06-27 03:44:18 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-27 14:54:44 
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"Player" <bi  2008-06-27 21:19:02 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-06-28 01:33:01 
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Peter Terpstra <peter@  2008-07-12 11:33:58 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-06-28 02:24:29 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-06-30 05:04:03 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-06-28 08:49:03 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-06-28 09:13:27 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-06-28 19:52:03 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-06-28 18:16:35 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-06-29 11:29:01 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-06-29 12:59:01 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-30 15:47:59 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-30 15:48:00 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 16:45:59 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-30 15:48:05 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 17:00:53 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-30 15:48:06 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-30 15:48:07 
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Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 17:33:35 
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Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 18:27:58 
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Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-02 11:01:07 
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Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-01 14:43:37 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-06-30 04:52:03 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-06-30 06:05:23 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-01 13:35:31 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-01 03:38:03 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:39 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-30 10:41:17 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-30 10:42:12 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-09 03:50:06 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-30 10:46:51 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-30 14:32:17 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-01 02:32:01 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-01 05:52:01 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-01 06:01:02 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:41 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:43 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-01 04:57:44 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-01 07:31:09 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:45 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-01 05:15:59 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-01 07:53:01 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-01 07:18:07 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-01 23:19:01 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:48 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-01 07:37:22 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-02 00:49:01 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-02 03:52:11 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-01 10:24:29 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-01 10:57:35 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-01 11:00:14 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 04:56:30 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-02 07:20:02 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 05:00:31 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-02 07:14:02 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 05:22:53 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-02 22:37:01 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:50 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 05:24:50 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-03 23:17:02 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 05:30:22 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-03 23:11:02 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 06:09:38 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-03 23:09:02 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:55 
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none <""bbb\  2008-07-13 06:11:18 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 03:50:09 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 04:18:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
none <""bbb\  2008-07-14 05:29:06 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 01:57:01 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
none <""bbb\  2008-07-15 08:45:49 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:15:03 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
none <""bbb\  2008-07-17 19:55:27 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-19 02:39:02 
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none <""bbb\  2008-07-14 05:19:38 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 02:04:02 
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none <""bbb\  2008-07-15 08:47:51 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:18:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 21:44:32 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-15 10:42:31 
Step by Step.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 23:29:00 
Step by Step.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 23:29:07 
Step by Step.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 23:29:16 
Step by Step.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 23:29:18 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:23:01 
Re: Step by Step.
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:27:03 
Re: Step by Step.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-22 13:40:47 
Mr. Lee and a Prediction.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:52 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-03 09:51:10 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-13 14:26:57 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-03 09:55:51 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-07-03 15:34:45 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-03 16:30:01 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-03 23:19:02 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 22:25:08 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-04 04:07:03 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 22:50:24 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-04 03:06:02 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 23:01:40 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-04 04:14:02 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-04 03:57:20 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-09 03:33:07 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-04 06:01:53 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-09 03:41:09 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-04 13:48:44 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-09 03:36:08 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-07-04 16:13:20 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-09 03:58:05 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-09 09:09:09 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-13 06:33:01 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 10:10:12 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-09 18:01:42 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-11 02:06:01 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 10:20:35 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-11 03:21:01 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-09 10:56:53 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-11 02:21:02 
Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-10 10:46:25 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-11 02:18:01 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-10 12:38:30 
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"Toby" <nosp  2008-07-11 02:22:02 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 05:23:47 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-13 06:35:02 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-13 06:47:01 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 22:39:05 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 23:09:01 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 10:32:25 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-13 06:52:02 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-13 08:58:33 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 22:39:03 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-15 11:27:01 
Step by Step.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 23:37:10 
Re: Step by Step.
none <""bbb\  2008-07-16 11:06:50 
Re: Step by Step.
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 23:07:01 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 10:34:08 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 10:36:07 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 10:53:41 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-13 06:10:03 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-13 08:31:29 
"Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 11:20:29 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-13 06:16:01 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 11:40:58 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-11 15:25:02 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-13 05:56:02 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 21:44:28 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 15:55:27 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-07-11 18:15:15 
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"mohor-yen" <  2008-07-13 19:02:02 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-11 23:38:02 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-07-12 02:10:23 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-12 09:05:53 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-07-12 20:55:26 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-13 07:49:06 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 02:09:07 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-13 08:04:53 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 01:57:03 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 22:38:53 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 23:00:02 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-13 08:10:53 
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none <""bbb\  2008-07-13 11:44:54 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 01:44:02 
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none <""bbb\  2008-07-14 04:53:00 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 02:05:01 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 21:44:41 
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none <""bbb\  2008-07-15 10:19:18 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:31:03 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 01:43:08 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 21:44:36 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:38:02 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-13 08:54:23 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 02:13:04 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 22:39:09 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-13 11:48:36 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-13 11:53:11 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 01:48:14 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-13 12:32:51 
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"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-14 01:45:05 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 21:44:39 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-15 10:49:42 
Step by Step.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 23:29:20 
Re: Step by Step.
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:29:02 
Re: Step by Step.
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-17 12:08:24 
Re: Step by Step.
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-19 20:12:56 
Re: Step by Step.
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-19 23:54:54 
Re: Step by Step.
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-25 15:08:19 
Re: Step by Step.
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-23 17:17:31 
Re: Step by Step.
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-24 13:02:07 
Re: Step by Step.
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-25 14:45:59 
Re: Step by Step.
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-28 17:22:33 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-13 13:38:38 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-14 03:06:35 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 05:53:01 
Prediction about Mr. Lee
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 22:12:19 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-14 03:17:41 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 03:14:02 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-14 03:38:02 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 03:06:01 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 22:38:58 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 23:06:01 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-17 19:59:50 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-19 03:43:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-14 06:31:33 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 02:04:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 21:44:34 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 10:16:58 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 10:18:04 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 10:21:21 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 10:22:59 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 03:14:02 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 10:25:03 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-14 10:48:14 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 02:57:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-15 22:38:56 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-14 10:54:35 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-14 14:22:12 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 02:07:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 13:30:31 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 13:33:13 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-14 20:33:11 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 02:15:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-14 18:03:51 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-14 21:17:24 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-15 01:38:10 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-15 05:56:02 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-15 08:55:18 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 11:40:45 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 23:03:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 12:05:29 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:59:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 13:48:37 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:17:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-22 13:40:40 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 21:44:22 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-16 22:15:01 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-22 13:40:30 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-17 01:05:22 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
none <""bbb\  2008-07-17 20:03:26 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-19 03:44:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-17 05:22:33 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-19 03:40:02 
Mr. Lee's illogical arguments
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-22 13:40:51 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-17 11:27:34 
Re: "Bait and Switch" Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-19 03:42:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-17 11:59:12 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-19 02:39:02 
The CCP oppresses the Chinese people
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-22 13:40:32 
Mr. Lee's illogical arguments.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-22 13:40:34 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-17 13:20:55 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-19 02:52:02 
Mr. Lee's illogical arguments.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-22 13:40:43 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-17 17:48:18 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-17 19:35:36 
Re: Yellow press and beyond Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-17 19:39:54 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-17 19:41:33 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-19 02:41:01 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
force.sin@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-18 09:39:22 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-18 09:49:33 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS--China's repressed press
force.sin@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-19 08:19:54 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-19 15:24:32 
Mr. Lee's illogical arguments.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-22 13:40:36 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-22 05:02:01 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-19 15:43:46 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-23 03:36:01 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-19 15:51:28 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-22 05:06:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 10:37:21 
Jim Walsh's stupid arguments
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-21 23:30:04 
Re: Jim Walsh's stupid arguments
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-23 21:52:55 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-22 06:29:30 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-23 03:26:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-23 21:52:45 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-22 08:23:07 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-22 08:26:24 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Bryson <bryson@[EMAIL   2008-07-22 22:26:25 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-23 03:06:01 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 17:08:23 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 05:25:42 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-07-23 21:52:53 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-28 01:06:02 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 06:18:08 
Re: AMERICA'S YELLOW PRESS
"Toby" <kyma  2008-07-28 00:58:03 
Re: Jim Walsh's stupid arguments
WanLF <wanlongfak@[EMA  2008-07-23 10:22:59 
Re: Jim Walsh's stupid arguments
enterprise <Enterprise  2008-07-23 10:39:49 
For Jim Walsh!!!
abian_chen@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 10:53:35 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 09:28:12 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Bryson <bryson@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 11:03:42 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
abian_chen@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 11:12:22 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 09:33:29 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-08-04 03:34:31 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-08-04 08:20:28 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-08-04 08:20:04 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
abian_chen@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 18:43:42 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 09:48:57 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
"mohor-yen" <  2008-07-24 16:12:06 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 18:53:52 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 19:05:09 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
abian_chen@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-23 18:56:52 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
generic_communist@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 20:57:28 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 18:38:23 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Bryson <bryson@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 21:22:04 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
generic_communist@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 21:28:42 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 18:40:14 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Bryson <bryson@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 21:33:30 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
generic_communist@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 21:37:22 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 18:42:38 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Bryson <bryson@[EMAIL   2008-07-23 21:58:23 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-24 14:24:09 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-24 15:16:46 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Bryson <bryson@[EMAIL   2008-07-24 04:41:01 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
Duke Lama <duke@[EMAIL  2008-07-25 15:14:10 
Re: For Jim Walsh!!!
abian_chen@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-25 00:26:11 
Re: Jim Walsh's stupid arguments
achtung <konon@[EMAIL   2008-07-29 00:32:10 
Re: Jim Walsh's stupid arguments
skygod <skygod@[EMAIL   2008-07-29 18:58:41 

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