On Jul 29, 9:22 am, skygod <sky...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> communists' dogs' open discussion is just as their master PRC, confined
> the speeches to its agenda.
> other than that agenda, everywhere is tiger-hip, don't touch !!!!
Yes, I think you're right, lechergod - many topics are just off-
limits. He won't talk about them. This greatly undermines his
credibility.
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> bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jul 28, 10:38 pm, "Toby" <kyma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >><bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>On Jul 28, 5:44 am, ltlee1 <ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >>>On Jul 28, 4:34 am, baldeagle <botakea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >>>>On Jul 28, 2:08 pm, "Toby" <kyma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >>>>>Let's talk about the Chinese media's disconnect on re****ting on
> >>>>>Chinese
> >>>>>involvement in Darfur.
>
> >>>>Darfur is an Islam vs US problem.
> >>>>Who cares...what US want to do to an Islamic
> >>>>Country ?
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> >>>Western media's covering on China and Darfur is another example of
non=
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> >>>investigative reproting.
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> >>-It looks like LT isn't interested in talking about the PRC media's
> >>-disconnect on re****ting on Chinese involvement in Darfur. That's
> >>-consistent, because LT isn't interested in talking about things which
> >>-are true but conflict with his agenda. LT has a serious disconnect
> >>-when it comes to inconvenient truths. His debate style is to ignore
or
> >>-distort any and all facts which he doesn't like. And *that's* the
real
> >>-truth, unlike LT's unending stream of deception and half-truths.
>
> >>Well said. LT always changes the subject when it hits too close to
home=
and
> >>he cannot find a way to defend the repressive policies of the PRC.
>
> > And he always talks constantly about how terrible the US is, in an
> > effort to keep people from acknowledging any of the problems with the
> > PRC. Like any apologist, his goal is to keep others from seeing the
> > truth about that which he must always defend.
>
> > In response to his being beaten in this thread, look for LT to start a
> > new thread about some crap about American democracy or something. It's
> > his usual MO when he is badly defeated, when his ridiculous POV is
> > unmasked by honest netters. He just tries again.
>
> > And don't believe him when he says he wants to have open discussion.
> > He is no more interested in open discussion that the PRC government is
> > in having open discussion in their press.
>
> >>It is, as always, not so much a question about quality of re****ting,
bu=
t of
> >>breadth of re****ting. No one pretends that every article published by
a
> >>"free" press will be of the highest quality and with impeccable
researc=
h,
> >>but at least there is no overt censor****p of articles: people are free
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to
> >>read whatever is written, and there is some independent oversight and
> >>criticism of re****ting, "independent" being here the operative word,
wh=
ich
> >>will give some guidelines to interested readers.
>
> >>You won't find this re****ted in China, but a few days ago the
newspaper=
****n
> >>Jing Bao published an article on an award-winning AP photographer who
h=
as
> >>been covering China for many years, and along with the article printed
=
some
> >>of his most famous photos. One of these is an iconic image from the
> >>Tiananmen massacre, of wounded being carried from the scene on a
bicycl=
e
> >>truck. When the Ministry of Propaganda found out they went ape**** and
=
order
> >>that every copy of the paper be pulled from the shelves of
newssellers.=
To
> >>this day, you cannot find a single image of the Tiananmen massacre on
t=
he
> >>Internet in China: every one of the sites carrying such images is
block=
ed.
> >>If I am wrong about this please provide links to any such image. There
=
may
> >>still be one or two overlooked by the Internet censors.
>
> >>Another interesting furore which is not being re****ted on the
Mainland,=
but
> >>is prominently featured in this weeks (Hong Kong-based) Sunday Morning
=
Post,
> >>in an article entitled "Bocog regrets strong-arm tactics" concerns
poli=
ce
> >>repression and mistreatment of Hong Kong journalists legitimately
tryin=
g to
> >>cover the chaos surrounding final Olympic ticket sales in Beijing on
Fr=
iday.
>
> >>It is quite clear that in PRC the media is nothing but an arm of the
> >>government, and is used by them to further their agenda by influencing
> >>public opinion. In the West, whatever else its faults, the media is
> >>nominally independent and can challenge what it sees as abuses and
> >>corruption. IN fact, it was only after Time magazine broke the story
of=
SARS
> >>on the mainland that the CCP was forced to act, instead of trying to
co=
ver
> >>up the true scale of the problem. This action by the foreign media
most
> >>probably saved many lives, Chinese lives which the government was
willi=
ng to
> >>sacrifice to save their face.
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